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Safe, secret long term gun storage

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by homeka45, Jan 7, 2003.

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  1. homeka45

    homeka45 Member

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    Any ideas or suggestions as to the best way to stash one or two guns and their ammo if things went to hell? I was thinking of burial, but how would you keep someone with a metal detector from finding said cache? Also what would be the best way to prevent corrosion? Any and all suggestions are welcome,
    Thanks,
    Dan:D
     
  2. rick458

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    if somebody is really wanting to find your stuff they will find it ,with ground penetrating radar and the ultralow sound wave devices they have now there are no true hiding places
    as for very long term storage it is hard to beat cosmoline and cheese cloth and wax paper
     
  3. answerguy

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    They'll find it on your city lot, but not so likely to find it buried in some remote location.
     
  4. Bottom Gun

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    Send them to me. I'll hide them for you and won't tell a soul.:D
     
  5. Mark Tyson

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    An area whose ground is rich in natural metals could make radar detectors useless, but ground penetrating radar is hard to beat. Police have used it to find bodies buried under concrete or pavement. Your best hope is remoteness. Bury your goods in as distant a place as possible, preferably somewhere with a very low water table. Mark the location with GPS and map. There are plenty of books about underground storage available; there is also an army field manual concerning the subject, though I can't recall the name.
     
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    I read that you can put them in a large piece of PVC pipe with dessicant, and propery sealed. The trick is to bury them verticaly so they don't show up so easily to detectors.
     
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    Don't just rely on GPS though. In a true SHTF scenario GPS is likely to be turned off for civilian use.
     
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    I just remember the adage "hide in plain site".
    even now BG's find stuff with simple metal detectors in homes, often find the well hidden, overlook the obvious.
    Just a thought, smarter not harder.
    Mechanic had a can of hand cleaner-old never used sitting on a dusty shelf back of shop-did use the 38 to change a BG's mind once tho' occupying the can.
     
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    A friend of mine told me how he hid some stuff. It made sense to me so I'll pass it on.
    First, make sure the gun is clean and lightly oiled. Pack it in an ABS plastic tube with whatever ammo you think you'll need and several oxygen absorbing packets.
    ABS is better than PVC because it isn't so brittle and also because it's black.
    The oxygen absorbing packets are vastly superior to dessicants if you intend to store the gun for an extended period of time, such as several years. They can be found on the web, sold by food preservation companies. The reason they're best is because they lock up 99.99% of the free oxygen in a package. No oxygen, no oxidation, no rust.
    Once you get everything in the pipe, glue caps on both ends. Don't trust those more expensive screw-on plugs, in time, they'll leak.
    Now, watch the local cemetery. As soon as a funeral is over and the tent is gone, leaving the flowers laying over the re-sodded grave, visit the "Dearly Departed" one more time, preferably in the middle of the night. Take your package, a black, plastic bucket, a folding shovel and some black plastic sheeting. Spread the plastic out around the grave to keep the newly turned dirt from showing and pull back some of the sod. Dig a trench in the soft dirt and bury your package. Cover everything up and make it look like you've_never been there. You'll have two to three buckets of dirt left over. Every cemetery has an area where they dispose of excess dirt, so you'll have to carry the dirt there. Fold up the plastic sheeting, put it in the bucket, grab your shovel and go have a beer. Oh yes, remember whose grave it is so you can go back there if you need to.
     
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    What in the world does it matter what color it is if its not exposed to the sun? More tactical, I suppose?
    Burying your guns in freshly dug graves? I'm sorry, this is ridiculous.
     
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    I believe the black is to make it less obvious if it gets uncovered due to a mudslide or something. I've heard of people painting white pipe brown for the sasme reason.
     
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    In meow opinion, if the time comes when we need to bury guns, we oughta be using 'em.

    Remember the Russians - they had some problems with some villages that had buried arms - They relocated the people, then brought in bulldozers and leveled the whole area. No landmarks (then - pre-gps) meant no recovery of buried stuff.
     
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    I like the grave idea.

    Well i got 15 acres and my freind has 40 .How well do you guy think the leo are going to look. I can see them look around the houses . But i can't see them walking around the hole 40 acres look for a hiding cache.

    I'm wrong ?:confused:
     
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    Go search TFL. Someone asked this question before and a link was posted. The link will take you to a web site where some guy took great pains to plan and hide his cache.
     
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    Thanks for all the info. I'll go back and check on the TFL. Nice to know there are such knowledgeable and helpful people here!
     
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    I think Bogie hit the nail on the head.
     
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    Yep, lots of family burial plots.
    Infastructure probably won't get leveled, especially some types.
    just saying, by the time need arises, you should have already in hand. Some areas will continue reverence and respect--some won't--notice what you DON'T notice, is all I'm suggesting.

    Someone did bury using pvc(thread somewhere) went back to check and under a lot of dirt...50' IIRC.
     
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    didn't they find a pilgram era matchlock behind some paneling in an olde New England home in the late 90s?
     
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    Ridiculous? I think oldfart's post is the best thing I've read all week! :D
     
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    Or graves as Edgar Allan Poe wrote about;)
     
  21. Topgun

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    Oh HELL yeah

    Let's desecrate a grave.

    How about stashing em under the butts of handicapped in wheel chairs?

    Or...CHURCH?...hide em behind all the purty statchoos.

    Can always tape em under the life support monitors in local hospitals.

    ................. :cuss:

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    INSIDE your METAL ducting in your heating system. Protected and sealed of course.

    Inside housings of electronic audio equipment or speaker boxes.

    Inside an high up UNDER your bathroom sink. Burglars seldom steal the towels except if they need em to wrap goodies, but they don't spend a lot of time looking UP while under the sink.


    BUT....they CAN find em ANYWHERE.
     
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    Cast them in blocks of leaded glass and drill deep in some geologically verified bedrock? :p
     
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    And then promptly posted it on the internet :rolleyes: :D
     
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    Clean and lightly oil weapon- seal in long term storage bags and put into ABS tubing along with ammo and magazines- use oxygen absorbers and dessicant and glue caps on both ends. Bury vertically and use a nail gun in wet weather to cover the property with magnetic signatures, including concentrations that will alert to different areas. Assemble a motarless brick bar-b-que over the site. Had a weapon stored this way 4 years with absolutely no damage. Just managed to remember to dig it up before the cement truck arrived to pour a slab.:rolleyes:
     
  25. WR Olsen

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    Forget burial......That's a sure way to rust out everything. What you want to consider is hiding it where no one thingks of looking.

    I have a chimney flue that is unused since we changed the heating system. Package the items you want to store, go to the roof and lower the package down the flue. Tie a piece of metal securely to the cord and drop the line into the flue.

    When you want to retreive the pacage just drop a magnet down the flue, capture the cord and pull everything up. The lasst thing to be destroyed in a house is the chimney so with luck your goodies will survive just about anything.

    An alternative is to use the space between the wall boards as a hidey hole. If you can get to it from the top (like through a drop ceiling) you can use the same technique.
     
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