Safe to use +P+ in these guns?

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  1. Blarelli

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    I'm just adding a few boxes to my stash and thought I would check before hitting the buy button.

    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM406-5.html

    I'd be using it in a ruger p95 and a cz sp-01, and potentially in a Ruger SR9c. I'm thinking it's ok for occasional use, but again, just thought I'd check with anybody that has more experience shooting the stuff.

    Thanks.
     
  2. wrc

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    It'll be fine in moderation. Fire some through each to make sure the point-of-impact is where you expect it to be.

    There's no official spec for "+P+", but that Federal 9BPLE (a.k.a "Illinois State Police Load") hasn't grenaded any firearm I've shot it in or any other that I've heard of.
     
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    You should be good to go with the 9BPLE load in your pistols. I carried that load for years in my 9mm handguns. It was inexpensive, accurate and effective. Between the Border Patrol, Illinois State Police and DeKalb Sheriffs department that load has stopped a lot of bad people from doing bad things for several decades. IIRC DeKalb Sheriffs still use it in their Beretta 92's.

    I still have a box or two of the 9BPLE in storage but I have moved on to the Winchester Ranger 127gr +P+ T-Series RA9TA for my pistols since SGammo had a smokin deal on a case of it.
     
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    That's actually not that fast for a +P+, more upper +P. Pressure, not velocity, is the determinate, of course. I'd not worry about it in a strong gun, though. Might be a little rough on the little pocket subcompacts. I'd limit it in my Kel Tec, not worry about it at all in my Ruger P85.
     
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    It's actually old school ammo that worked 25 years ago and still works just fine. I would not shoot it out of a k/t though. It probably runs around 1350 fps from a 4" barrel.
     
  6. Drail

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    Even if it is "safe" there's no reason to push a gun that hard for a modest increase in performance. +P and +P+ ammo is a marketing gimmick. The standard load for the caliber stamped on your gun will do anything you need to do if you can place the shot where it needs to go. If not then +P ammo isn't going to make any difference.
     
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    How about steel framed handguns like the S&W 659/5906, 645 and others? Do the frames protect them?
     
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    Since there are no SAAMI specs for 9mm +P+ loads there's no way of knowing if that ammo will be safe in your pistols or not. All I can tell you is, if they were my guns I wouldn't fire that ammo in it. There is no reason in the world to push a 9mm bullet up past 1300 fps IMO. Can you tell me why???
     
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    That load is rather weak for +P, let alone the "+P+" designation. I've run 115's as fast as 1,430 FPS from my Baby Eagle FS (and 90's at 1,640).

    I wouldn't run it excessively in a polymer pocket 9mm, but in a regular service pistol, no problem.
     
  10. easyg

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    I don't know about the CZ, but this is from Ruger's own website...

    You can find it under the FAQ section....
    http://www.ruger.com/service/FAQs.html
     
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