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As far as the safety bullet goes, it sounds like something I'd use in a 'car gun' that I'd be worried about getting stolen from my vehicle.

If your gun ever got stolen, wouldn't you just love to read a week later about the goblin who got shot in self-defense while trying to use a 'jammed' gun on a citizen?
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Do you really think that if some thug steals your car gun that they won't rack the slide to see it it's loaded? :rolleyes: Do you really think they'll just do a press check and soldier on? Even if they were stupid enough to try to fire the safety bullet, do you think that no one would be able to figure out how to unjam it?


The flawed logic supporting the claims of Safety Bullet is that you just rack the slide to make it safe to fire. Why not just leave the chamber empty? Would that not serve the same purpose? Wouldn't just leaving the gun unloaded be just as safe?
Better yet, if you're not in control of your gun, LOCK IT UP! Don't fall for some gimicky false sense of security. :banghead:

A gun is DANGEROUS. It's supposed to be that the way it was designed.
And all of the primer fired wall anchors in the world won't make it safe.

What gets me is that IF the informercials actually start airing there are plenty of morons who will actually buy this thing. :( I only hope it doesn't get someone killed.
 
If you exercise responsible gun storage and education practices, your child has a better chance of being elected Secretary-General of the UN than he does of dying in a firearms accident.
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That's a good way to put it in perspective.


Someone educate me - if all of these folks are so concerned about the safety of children, why are they putting all of this energy into attacking guns? The OUGHT to be attacking things that kill far more kids, like underage drinking!

Or drunk driving.

Or...

(Well, it's a long list.)
 
Do you really think that if some thug steals your car gun that they won't rack the slide to see it it's loaded?
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That's why you have a second one in the magazine. You're assuming that the average break-in artist would know what this doodad was. I'll bet that he'd think it's a new type of 'cop killer teflon' ammo. :D

Do you really think they'll just do a press check and soldier on? Even if they were stupid enough to try to fire the safety bullet, do you think that no one would be able to figure out how to unjam it?
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Do you think he can unjam it before the cop or civilian he just tried to shoot ventilates him?

I'm not claiming that the idea is perfect, but it's one more barrier in the way of the criminal. The only time I leave a gun in my car when I'm carrying is when I'm required by law to not carry, such as at a school.
 
Reminds me of a children's book I once read...a bunch of teenage kid detectives had an old Ford car that they rigged up so it would only start if you turned the ignition *backwards*; if you turned it normally the wheels came off.

Guess what happened?

That's right, they forgot about it and disabled their own car when they tried to chase the bad guy.
 
The only time I leave a gun in my car when I'm carrying is when I'm required by law to not carry, such as at a school.
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Let me get this straight.
You're going to remove your carry weapon. Drop the magazine, clear the chamber, remove the first round from the magazine, insert a safetybullet, chamber a safety bullet and reseat the magazine. Stash it in your car and then go into the school.

Then upon returning to your car you are going to retrieve your carry weapon. Drop the magazine, remove the safetybullet from the chamber, remove the safetybullet from the magazine, insert a live round, chamber a live round, reseat the magazine and reholster.

Does that about cover it? :rolleyes:
I'll bet that he'd think it's a new type of 'cop killer teflon' ammo.
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Sure he will. :scrutiny: As soon as those infomercials hit the air the Badguy Information Network will be distributing the information before John Public ever gets his delivery from UPS.
Besides, as soon as they jack a round into the chamber and it jams it'll be tossed. There is a reason no one makes a full wadcutter in 9mm or .45. THEY DON'T FEED!

For those who want them, fine. You spend your 19.95 plus shipping for 2 trick bullets.
I'll spend my 19.95 on 25 rounds of Remington Golden Sabre.
 
The problem I see with this thing is that someone who is thoughtless enough to leave a loaded gun lying around, and thoughtless enough to not teach his kids about guns, is certainly not going to remember to put this round in the gun when he’s done with it.

Makers of safety devices designed to make up for lack of good sense forget that it’s that same good sense that is required to use their products...which renders their products useless.
 
If for example im in a no ccw zone and have to lock it in car .. I slap my trigger lock on i always have one with me incase i run into a wayward gun that needs a home ..
 
could make for a fun gag at and IDPA type of thing....
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I didnt want to be the first to say it but, i was thinking the same thing. I can see loading it into say round number 3 or 4 in the mag and watching the poor dude work through every clearance drill in the book. It might actually be valuable training in what to do when you have a failure that you simply CANT manage to clear.
 
Would never catch me with one of these things...

I agree with others... I hope it dies in the market place.

On a side note... anyone smell spam?
 
Ok...I've read every word and examined every picture on your site, and have come to the following conclusion.

I would not put one in my ready gun, not for all the tea in China!!!
That being said, I am convinced of the following:
1. The safety bullet will not harm a gun.
2. The safety bullet will not allow a second bullet to enter the chamber because, with a primer only charge used to expand a plastic wedge in the chamber, the slide will not cycle.
3. The safety bullet might be useful to those with moderate to large numbers of handguns. As an added security measure, in firearms stored in a safe not your ready gun/guns, it might give a little extra peace of mind.

But in my opinion, guns stored properly in a high quality safe are not a safety risk. My firearms are either loaded or locked up. If someone goes for my ready gun, they’ll have to kill me first, and only a safe cracker will get my weapons out of my safe.
 
The "safety" bullet is nothing more than a large paving stone on the road to perdition. People who are smart enough to use safety devices in the first place have many, far better IMO, options. The careless ones won't use ANY safety devices anyway. :rolleyes:
 
It is a curious invention. To my way of thinking it serves the same niche as those magnetic rings for revolvers. Only the ring does a better job -- only the owner can fire it regardless of its load status. And opening a trigger lock is faster than reloading a revolver.

Definitely can't sell hysteria to the gun crowd. The only types who would go for it wouldn't buy a gun in the first place.
 
Very creative idea. Something no one else would have thought of. It's just lacking on the practical side. Creativity and practicality are usually opposed to each other anyway - but once in a while a truly creative idea is also practical. Keep trying and you'll hit on one of those.

Jeff

(edited because the first post was too mean.)
 
One thing I have noticed in all the feedback that I have received is that no one has told me of a better safety device. If anyone knows of anything that can be used to make a firearm safer and is better than the Safety Bullet, PLEASE enlighten me.
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:neener: The one between the thumbs has served me well since I was a kid.

You tell me what is easier?
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In the case of a break-in, what's easier is reaching for the firearm that's kept out of sight, and for my flashlight with the other hand. All my guns are either within arms reach of me or locked away. Any in the former state are kept loaded with one in the chamber. This allows me to put the weapon into action quickly and easily if it's ever needed.

Granted, there are no children in my household.
 
What amazes me is how many people said "you'd forget to rack the slide," or something to that effect. Isn't that what practice is for? As you train, so shall you fight. You might as well be saying "don't bother with keeping a gun for home defense, you'd forget where the gun is," or "you'd forget to disengage the safety," or even "you'd forget how to use the trigger!"

That said, I'm not buying 'em.
 
RyanM.

That's not the point. If you forget to flick off the safety then you can still flick it off later. If you carry without a round chambered and you forget to rack the slide most typical malfunction drills would include racking the slide so that would be a natural response for most people. This product, however, completely disables the gun if you forget.

Whenever people bring up the idea of not keeping a round chambered they are never reamed as strongly as this guy was. That's because if those people forget to rack the slide they may still have the option to do it.

Jeff
 
I'm not so sure of that, though. If someone squeezes the trigger, on an empty chamber or a "safety bullet" (or a live round, for that matter), it's because they have visual contact with an intruder, which they have identified as not being a family member, best friend, etc. By the time they've gone through all that, if the first shot doesn't go bang, I don't think they'd have enough time to rack the slide and try again. Maybe they would, but I wouldn't want to count on it.

It's mainly an argument for keeping a bedside gun in ready to fire condition, of course.

But if someone sleeps very soundly, and keeps their bedside gun in plain view, a "safety bullet" would at the very least prevent them from being shot with their own gun (maybe).
 
Okay it is an old thread.. but its the first time *I* have seen it :)

I came up with a BUNCH of reasons why I wouldn't even have one of these in my home...

Didn't the grunts in Vietnam have a similar item when they first introduced the m16? Check this link if you do not know what I am talking about...

Thanks, but there is already enough potential mechanical failure built into any machine, I do not think I will introduce one more to one I keep onhand to defend my very life. :what:
 
Instead of this safety bullet, why couldn't you just leave the chamber unloaded? It's just as good and doesn't make your gun a useless club if you forget. And just teach kids how to respect guns instead of shrouding them in mystique by saying "Never touch my guns, never ever never!".

And, of course, it's useless for any gun you want to carry cocked and locked.
 
Ryan,

True, there could be big problems if you forget to rack the slide on an empty chamber. But still, at least there's a chance of racking it and getting a shot off. With this product there's no chance if you forget. That was my point.
 
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