SAFETY WARNING:Drawstrings on jacket can cause unintentional discharge of firearms

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Don't own a glock and never will. I think they are one of the best made guns out there but the safeties have always been a deal breaker for me.
 
I don't own a Glock but I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to the idea of having one. I tend to think one should use care when holstering a Glock or any of the other striker fired pistols with a similar safety configuration in addition to using a quality holster that covers the trigger (of course that last part should go without saying).
 
Deja Vu, didn't the exact same thing happen last year or year before?
 
There have been two of these on my local news in the last year. One officer blew up a toilet at a restaurant and the other was a CC instructor/retired LEO that shot himself in the foot.
 
Aaaand this is why you LOOK when you re-holster, and make sure obstructions are clear.

Any double action or striker fired handgun without a safety can have this happen, not something unique to Glocks. S&W M&P's, XD45's, all double action revolvers, etc...

People have been carrying gun without safeties for well over 100 years. Basic safety rules (look when you holster, clear any obstructions, etc) would save a trip to the ER...

Also this isn't just "hoodies with draw strings" - any holster with a retention strap can do the same thing if you shove down and it gets in the trigger guard.
 
Golly Bill, Mr Dillon, mebbe them ol obsolete 1911's ain't so dumb after all.:evil::D
 
This is EXACTLY why I do not like most non-manual safety striker guns like Glocks, M&Ps, and PPQs. There is way more likelihood of this happening with a spongy trigger striker gun (maybe 6 lb over 3/8") than any full double action semiauto or revolver (roughly 10 to 12 lb over 3/4").

Murphy will find a way, especially if you make it easy for him!
 
Actually XD's have a grip safety requiring a good grip to go bang, that's really the main reason I went with the XD's. Of course that causes some people to complain that you need a full grip to make the gun fire.

The majority of DA revolvers I have shot have trigger pulls that are both longer and heavier than a typical Glick seems to me. At least my 642 seems that way. But of course it has happened with revolvers I'm sure.

It may not be limited to Glocks, but it sure seems to happen with them on a regular basis. The Glock design has always seemed like an accident looking for a place to happen to me, but I've only been actively shooting for 50 years so maybe I'm not "professional" enough to use one.
 
If you think about it a grip safety would most likely not have prevented this since most people tend to push down on it when holstering. Trent said it all. You have to pay attention 100 percent of the time.
 
Don't be in a hurry to re-holster.

Nothing wrong with the Glock design, or any other pistol without a manual safety. If you're holding a gun, then whatever you're doing with that gun is the most important thing in your life right then. People who forget that get hurt.
 
No one ever won a gun fight holstering fast.

I think that's how the phrase goes.
 
Surprising, considering we hear all the time how the police are the only ones with the training and professionalism to carry a gun.
 
So why is it that it appears that the ones doing this type of ND are law enforcement or former law enforcement? I am not saying complatency is the answer but that combined with the type of weapon and department wide purchases of clothing maybe.
 
So why is it that it appears that the ones doing this type of ND are law enforcement or former law enforcement? I am not saying complatency is the answer but that combined with the type of weapon and department wide purchases of clothing maybe.
Laws of probability. If LE spend 80% more time manipulating a fire arm, then they are more likely to be involved in a ND.

I like having the hammer in a DA/SA. While holstering decocked, My thumb stays on the back of the hammer. If it begins to lift, I can feel it immediately and back off. Sometimes with certain clothes it's hard to see everything around a holster in a 4 o'clock position.
 
Saw something like this several years ago. I do own Glocks and carry a G26 daily. So far, no drawstring-related disasters. (of disasters of any kind, come to think of it.) ;)

I'd consider the addition of an external safety on a Glock to be a safety hazard. I like 'em just like they are...well, except I use 3.5# connectors in my Glocks.
 
Actually I have read of a number of cases where a branch would pull back a single action hammer and release and fire the gun in the holster. I can see how it could happen with a DA revolver as well under the right circumstances. If you don't cover every possible thing that can go wrong you can end up a statistic. If you can't believe this then you've never spent much time in the woods. Holsters with straps and material to cover the trigger guard were invented for a reason. As for law enforcement, it's fairly easy to see how a poorly designed holster combined with a sidearm with no safety (sorry, but the little tab on a Glock trigger is not a safety) being carried while running through backyards and jumping fences while chasing a perp and then trying to hurriedly reholster it while pumped up on adrenaline could lead to a ND. And it has. There is also a reason that Glock felt it necessary to come up with the "New York trigger" mod. And it's not just Glocks. Relying on a grip safety to prevent an ND is like relying on a rabbit's foot. Eez gon. Eez dangerous. And Murphy rules the universe.
 
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No one ever won a gun fight holstering fast.

Very apt advice. I've never quite got these stories. Take your time when holstering and go slow. Heck for an IWB holster almost all of them clip on so I'll usually remove the holster, put the gun in the holster off the belt, then attach the holster & gun as a unit to my belt.

OWB holsters often don't need all that as they're further out and easier to keep clear, but I generally only use OWB holsters on the range.
 
Except. When re holstering to go hands on, it's not wise to look down and ponder ones holster pathway. Holstering without taking your eyes off the bad guy or the situation around you is the norm in the real world.
 
Yeah it "could" happen with a DAO or DA/SA but is much more unlikely than a Glock or similar designs. Pretty difficult to pull a long heavy DA trigger by accident and not figure out there's something out of the orinary. Never been a Glock fan anyways because the triggers suck. The only striker fired I like is the XD with the backstrap safety which would have prevented a discharge in this specific case. Glad he wasn't severly injured and he learned a valuable lesson. Always pay attention as you reholster.
 
I get what you are saying sgt127 but why would you reholster if threat isn't already neutralized? Why not take 1 extra second to make sure there's no obstruction?
 
If he were hinky enough to have a gun pointed at him one second, even though he now claims compliance, I still look at him as a serious threat until he is fully controlled.

I can't get him cuffed with a gun in my hand, I have to do something with it, but, I have to be thinking he is feigning compliance to draw me in and, it may go back to deadly force any time.

Just reality.

Sure, just wandering around in the woods, at the house at the range, it's ok to look at your holster, but, you don't want that to become habit either. Remember the stories of officers having empty .38 shell casings in their pocket after a shoot out. It became "normal" to drop the empties in your hand and then put them in your pocket after firing a string at the range. Good for reloading, not an effective use of time in a real deal.

Usually the gun goes back in the holster without being fired. He might also have buddies that I don't want to take my eyes off of.
 
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