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Saiga 5.56 or 7.62?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Stormshotty, Nov 20, 2009.

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  1. Stormshotty

    Stormshotty Member

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    I'm thinking about getting a Saiga in either the 5.56 or 7.62. The problem is I already have a DPMS Panther 5.56 and my father owns a WASR-10. If this rifle will be the only one I have for quite some time, what caliber would you recommend it in?
     
  2. Avenger29

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    One thing that might influence your decision is that Magnoilia State Armory makes an AR magazine adapter for the 5.56 Siagas.
     
  3. Stormshotty

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    Is it easier than the Saiga -> AK mag conversion?
     
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    It's not quite a drop in fit. Google them and read about it on their website.

    Don't forget that for both rifles you have to replace some of the parts with US made parts to reach 922(r) compliance.
     
  5. Stormshotty

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    Figured it out, yes, because it's no longer a sporting rifle. They also sell conversion kits.
     
  6. nulfisin

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    7.62

    If you already have a good 5.56, there's no reason to duplicate it. The main beauty of the AK is superior power (7.62) in a simple package.

    My converted Saiga is a better gun than my WASR. There's no real difference in accuracy, but the fit, finish, and feel of the Saiga is better.
     
  7. nalioth

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    A user by the nick of "renegadebuck" makes adapters for the .223 Saiga, too.

    I've never heard any reviews of MSA's adapters, but renegadebuck's got reviews all over for his.
     
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    I'd say it depends on what else you have in your collection. I have a few rifles in 223 and only a Chinese SKS in 7.62x39 (which i'm getting reday to sell) so I bought my Saiga in 223. If you have other 7.62x39s get that.
     
  9. THE DARK KNIGHT

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    I'd say the 7.62x39 is a much more versatile, everyday round for a semi auto. The main advantages of .223 over x39, such as increased ammo storage, controllability in full auto, and compliance with STANAG are not utilized by us civillians, and the round's accuracy is not utilized in the AK platform. I have a .223 and an x39 and wll be the first to tell you get the x39.
     
  10. M1key

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    My Saiga is the most accurate x39 rifle I own, including a pair of Arsenal 47s. Maybe hunt mulies, mountain lion with x39 soft points.

    However, I think 223 is a more useful caliber especially around where I live. Varmints 2 legged and 4, wolves, coyotes, foxes, javelinas in the hills...

    I also own a pair of Saigas in 223. They both shoot very well with 62 Soft Point, 75gr Wolf HP bullets.

    The .223 will be around a long time. If Russian x39 is banned from import, we will be SOL.
     
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  11. Avenger29

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    Let's put it this way...7.62x39 is made domestically (but will give you sticker shock). 5.45x39...well, not so good. It is not made domestically.

    Then again, those of us that shoot large amounts of Wolf and whatever else imported 5.56 will also not be too happy, as that is a significant source of training ammunition.

    I can very well see an import ban on 7.62x39, 5.45x39, and 5.56x45. It will be a dark day. Much of our ammunition comes from foreign countries, and it will be very easy to ban it (look what they did to Chinese ammunition and firearms...we can still get Chinese shotguns, and that's it)
     
  12. THE DARK KNIGHT

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    The ban on chinese x39 basically stems from a stubborn old man deciding to make an x39 handgun despite warnings from his peers in the industry.

    A ban on russian ammo would surely suck. But at the prices now, heck you could put aside $110 a month and have 6,000 rounds of x39 stashed in a year.
     
  13. nalioth

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    Not really.

    As I keep saying, the steel used in Chinese (and other commie milspec ammo) is soft steel and not armor piercing at all.

    The Chinese ammo ban is nothing more than a "punish the Chinese" for some transgression or other AND/OR more legislation based on FUD compounded by ignorance.
     
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    I understand that.But I read that the brewing sentiment was finally acted on when that guy made the x39 pistol in early 90's. Now, as to why the current x39 pistols or AR pistols hasn't done that again, who knows.

     
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