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SAR-1 Questions

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by MikePGS, Aug 11, 2006.

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  1. MikePGS

    MikePGS Member

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    I'm interested in purchasing one of these, but i was curious as to where i might find one. I've read that its a good idea to buy it in person as opposed to having one ship, so does anyone know of any places that are either national chains, or in SE Michigan that might have them? Also, i believe i read something about needing to get it modified so it will accept standard magazines... does anyone know how i might go about having this done generally? Thanks, Mike
     
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    I believe they stoped importing these a few years back. They are still around at the $350.00-$450.00 price. Great guns.
     
  3. benEzra

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    SAR-1's are already set up for standard AK-type mags; no modifications needed. They are also satisfy the 18 USC 922(r) parts count rule right out of the box. The guns that came with single-stack magwells were early WASR-10's.

    Here's a couple of photos of my SAR-1:

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    Importation of SAR's was discontinued in 2002 or 2003. However, Century Arms began importing GP-WASR's, which are set up the same way, and post-2004 models have bayonet lugs and threaded muzzles/slant brakes, which you will notice my SAR does not have. The only difference is that a GP-WASR doesn't have the dimples in the side of the receiver; the magazine is located by a pair of plates inside the receiver instead.

    I've read that the new WASR's have very good triggers (by TAPCO); my SAR's trigger is OK but not spectacularly good.
     
  4. MikePGS

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    Thanks. Is there anything in particular i should look out for on one of these? By that i mean common problems or issues.
     
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    I am not aware of any issues you need to address. I had an SAR-1 and it was magnificent. I am currently having issues with a WASR, but I understand that is rare (feeding issues I believe due to my needing to sand down the craggy insides).

    If you're looking for a good SAR-1, I'd suggest www.gunbroker.com or www.gunsamerica.com --there is always a healthy stock there. Sometimes on www.auctionarms.com, but not as many.

    Good luck and when/if you get one let us know how you like it! They are fine little pieces of machinery...

    TRL
     
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    The main potential problem with SAR's was related to Century's stateside quality control. The parts made in Romania are of high quality, but sometimes Century assembled things crooked (usually either the front sight assembly not on straight, or the gas block not on straight). The rifle will still work fine, but the windage adjustment may have to be cranked all the way to one side to get the rifle sighted in.

    If you are buying one (and this applies to any Century-imported AK lookalike, not just SAR's), look down the gun from the butt end and ensure the gas block and front sight assembly look like they're on straight.

    If you get a chance to shoot one, some SAR's had a problem with trigger slap (the bolt would hit trigger parts when the action cycled after firing, causing the trigger to slap back against your finger, which is really annoying). Newer WASR's that use TAPCO fire-control parts don't have this problem. If you do get a SAR with trigger slap, you can replace the fire-control parts with TAPCO parts for less than $50.
     
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    Thanks for the links and info. Btw nice Name Howling Mad:)
     
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    btw thanks for the tips on the WASR's. I'm looking at some of them, and they look pretty nice to. I'll post pics if i pick one up.
     
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    Century didnt assemble anything, all they did was swap out parts for US versions. You can blame the romanians for canted sights or a canted gas block. Century does deserve the blame for WASRs with bad magwell conversions however.

    Edit: And FWIW I've had three SARs and all of them were dead on straight. I bought 4 romanian parts kits, former military rifles, and those all have some degree of cant. I also have a bulgarian AKS-74 kit that came with a lot of cant. It can happen with any AK.
     
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    My SAR 1 has been nothing but great. You won't be disappointed with one. I bought mine several years ago before they banned the import of them. Lots of AK accessories out there to play with. Your imagination is all you need to start.
    Here is a pic of mine:
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  11. benEzra

    benEzra Moderator Emeritus

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    TIMC, nice gun!

    MikePGS, you can pick up accessories like TIMC has on his gun at www.tapco.com and other places. His gas tube optics mount looks like an UltiMAK (www.ultimak.com), and it looks like he's running a stock adapter to mount an AR collapsible stock.
     
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    My 1,000th Post!!

    I loved my SAR and wish I still had it, but made a great trade for it so I can't complain too much. It cost me about $250 +tax, transfer and shipping pre 9/11 and I traded it a couple of years ago for a gorgeous revolver that's worth at least triple that.

    Still, it was a heck of a lot of fun to shoot and considering how much I paid then, i have a tough time spending the needed cash on one now.

    Only problem I had was it occasionally had some magazines it didn't like - but I was never certain if it was a magazine problem or a SAR problem. It accepted like 98% of the mags I came across, but would occasionally not want to release one.
     
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