Sarah Brady posting live today on her blog. Please be professional.

[jpk1md]

There are now MULTIPLE blogs on the page now and all are being linked up to Huffingtonpost.

Now more than ever its important to avoid the rabid dog approach as it will be visible to a much larger group of people.

Stick to facts and we will win others over to our point of view...act like a rabid dog and we only succeed in alienating people.

There are so many normal people that have been brainwashed by lefty drivel regarding firearms that it usually doesn't take much for them to see common sense and become Pro Rights people....I have 2 non-gunner friends that I've had these conversations with that now "Get it" and have gone as far as writing letters to Senators and Reps (State and Fed) stating that "I don't own a firearm yet but believe that gun control doesn't work and ask that you oppose bills like HR 1022...."

Heck one of them has decided that he should have a handgun in the house and hasn't even fired one yet (Next sat is a range day for the newbie )

Common sense is on our side folks...we just need to be polite and stick to the facts

 

[poor_richard]

So far, Sarah has posted twice. Both times, what she wrote was drivel. I can see where Kelli gets her material. I don't think we're going to hear anything substantial from Sarah. She certainly has not addressed any of our specific points so far. Arguing with Sarah is like .

Probably why Charlton Heston said that she wasn't qualified to enter into a debate with him.

 

[svtruth]

Interestingly

She did not, in her "answer", answer anything.
Congratulations to all posters for your literacy and courtesy.

 

[mike101]

Well, they aren't taking any more posts. I guess that's it from Sarah, for now.

They have been moving our posts around, over there. So, maybe those of you who think their posts were deleted, just couldn't find them because they were moved.

We can start in again at Huffington Post. Only three comments so far. Warning. People over there tend to be a lot more vicious and insulting than the Brady Bunch.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-helmke/anniversary-musings-by-gu_b_44626.html

 

[zoom6zoom]

I noticed this in the intro to her blog:

This past Sunday, I read a fascinating story in the New York Times Sunday magazine about a young baseball player who rose through the ranks – little league, high school baseball, college ball, the minor leagues, and finally got his big day, being called up to play for the Chicago Cubs. He was sent in to pinch hit. He was thrilled. The crowd was enormous. His mother and father were in the stands. And the first pitch thrown was a fastball that hit him in the head.

Instantly, his career was shattered by a head injury. He has struggled since to realize his dream. But he’s still a fighter, and he’ll never give up.

She's not going to stop at our guns! Sarah Brady WANTS TO BAN BASEBALL!

 

[HiroProX]

A hint for next time when on a forum that deletes posts and replys contrary to their agenda, screen shots are your friend.

 

[Stretchman]

What happened to Jim Brady and the others that day was tragic. What happened to whas her name's husband and son was tragic. But there is a point to this.

In both of these cases, they kow tow to the perps. They let the gun violence drive them to make decisions about firearms, albeit irrationally.

These people make about as much sense as the people that actually did the trigger work. One's in an insane asylum, believing that there was some Hollywood St(H)arlet driving him to do these things. The other tried to defend himself in a most unabashed display of illogical stupidity heretofore unseen in the court system in New York.

These people have done everything that the tirgger guys ever wanted them to do. They're like hostages with Helsinki syndrome. Captives in some kind of psychological prison of fear and deception. They are deserving of our sympathy. But they need help. Especially our help.

Our mission should be to right the wrongs that have occured. To curb the violence. So that people can feel safer again. And we know how to do it right. No personal attacks. Except maybe against the people who did them this way, and who made them feel the way they feel. Those are the people who are wrong.

 

[RKCheung]

The Bradys will NEVER engage in honest discussion on the gun issue. However, it is still useful to get our side way out there in the internet ether using calm, collected reason. Do it not to persuade the gun-grabbers, who will never give in to rational argument, but for the fence-sitting lurkers, who may just need the smallest bit of prodding to fall into our camp.

Here's an exchange I had with Sarah Brady in a WashPost Q&A last year:

Los Angeles, Calif.: The National Academy of Sciences came out with a report in 2004 stating that no proof has been found that gun control has lessened violence. In light of this, what justification do you find for continuing to promote additional restrictions on your fellow law-abiding citizens, especially when gun ownership is on the rise and levels of crime and violence are at historic lows?

James and Sarah Brady: In the first place, lets make it clear we don't want restrictions on law abiding citizens beyond making sure that all gun purchasers undergo a complete and comprehensive background check. Our purpose is to keep guns out of the wrong hands. Since the Brady Law passed 1.3 million illegal purchasers have been stopped by the background checks. We must now be sure ALL sales undergo background checks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2006/03/29/DI2006032901373.html

 

[bogie]

I wanna see where her 1.3 million illegal purchasers are IN JAIL because if they were trying to buy a gun illegally, that's a crime, right?

Campers, there are literally MILLIONS of us. If not hundreds of millions. If we could ALL just agree to work together, we could be the major political force in the free world. Think about it, and be friendly to your neighborhood duck hunter...

 

[kcmarine]

Well done. We posted so many pro- gun comments that they couldn't filter us out fast enough. They actually had to shut down the thread.

 

[waynedm]

Interesting.

Is it wrong that I don't feel bad at all that Jim Brady was shot? I don't understand why all the sympathy is being expressed towards Jim and herself. Crocodile tears? It happened over 20 years ago, get over it! It's not like she was held captive for months on end being raped and tortured, at least something like that would make sense on her part for being so emotionally wrecked.

This woman and her campaign support taking guns away from potential victims. It's a human right to be able to protect oneself; she doesn't want this. I hope somebody breaks into her Delmarva Peninsula sanctuary and makes her an unarmed victim. She needs to know what it's like to be a real victim.

 

[jpk1md]

It would not surprise me one bit if we were all to discover that Sarah Brady were armed to the teeth...after all as one of the few "elite" has need for CCW....I've been toying with the idea of doing a PIA for CCW holders in Md not to publish it but to see which of the elite and politicians are hypocrites.

 

[waynedm]

I've been toying with the idea of doing a PIA for CCW holders in Md not to publish it but to see which of the elite and politicians are hypocrites.

Why not publish it?! The left media enjoys publishing the CCW status of private citizens. The People have a right to know what polititians are walking hypocrisies.

Do as I say, not as I do. To the Republic for which it stands, not to the King for which he stands. This isn't England. If we wanted to be ruled we wouldn't have left and made this country.

I wonder if Mrs. Brady realizes that her son's 'hunting rifle' is basically a military sniper rifle based off . . .

 

[Professor K]

Wow, 118 comments and then "comment limit exceeded." Sure...... 118 is a totally non arbitrary number afterall...

Gotta admit, she does have courage allowing comments, even if a lot are thrown out by her mods. Those gunguys.com ****ers are too afraid to allow comments, because he'd get his ass handed to him. Gunguys makes Brady look like the NRA, they're so hilarious. Whenever an argument shows up, he just goes like "shut up person who likes guns, you must be a southern redneck idiot."

 

[mike101]

"Campers, there are literally MILLIONS of us. If not hundreds of millions. If we could ALL just agree to work together"

Something like 84 million, last time I asked.

 

[SoCalShooter]

CHARGE!!!! (bugle plays)

Its shutdown.

 

[jpk1md]

Mike101...we've had almost 2000 viewings of this thread in just over 24 hrs....I think its highly likely that we contributed in a very significant way to Sarah and Paul shutting down the blog barely a day after it started when they stated that it was supposed to go all weekend long. It also doesn't say much for the BC that they had virtually NO public support on those blogs...to be honest it is consistent with the hearings that they come to for bills in Md...a few (handful) paid professionals from BC and Hundreds of private citizens against them....we were roughly 25:1 against them at SB 43/AWB this year.

2000 viewings isn't 84,000,000 gun owners but I thing the outcome as per above is a great start and continues to send a clear message to Sarah and Paul that their opposition is Grass Roots and that we can communicate and mobilize pretty quickly/effectively....its not 1994 anymore.

Just to plant the idea in folks heads for further cogitation as we approach a pivotal election in this countries history with a likely SCOTUS decision on 2A all in the next 2 years I think it might be prudent for each of us to consider that we MAY need to step up to the plate and show up in DC for a PEACEFUL demonstration of strength/support for the 2A and the rest of the Constitution.

Consider for a moment the impact of 2+ Million Pro 2A Citizens on the Mall/Steps of the Capitol in DC.

 

[gotarheels03]

I hope somebody breaks into her Delmarva Peninsula sanctuary and makes her an unarmed victim. She needs to know what it's like to be a real victim.

Agreed. I posted a comment to this effect. I basically asked her what she would do if an armed criminal broke into her MD home. I pointed out that Jim is wheelchair bound and thus can't protect himself or her. I went on to ask her how she feels about trying to disarm disabled persons like her husband who are prime targets for criminals and can't retreat like she would like victims to do.

Seeing as they've stopped comments already I doubt I'll get a response. I can't say I'm suprised thouigh.

 

[Zen21Tao]

Here is the note on the site:

Sorry, comment limit exceeded for this entry.

Oh, well - tried!

This is directly because of Kelli's continuous whining in the past 5-6 threads ("Taking aim at judicial activism" and back). In each of those threads we have run up over 300-500 posts counter arguing kelli's emotional appeals, empty assumptions, and unsupported claims with facts and logic. We would continue to ask her to support her factual claims with proof and she would just play the victim saying such requests were harassment and "egging her on." She kept having breakdown after breakdown suggesting that our posts should be delated and/or we should be banned.

For example,
In the “Taking aim at judicial activism” thread Kelli claimed in post # 316 that she had presented “a dozen citations” for her past claims. In post # 371 I refuted this statement by provided 30+ of her first posts (starting in "Mandating Guns") showing her making factual statements with no sources to back up her claims. She got so mad she called me a “stalker” and asked for Zach, who works for the BC, to have me banned (posts # 378, 379, 383, and 388).

Believe mewhen I say, I have no doubt that the new post limits are the direct effect of Kelli's continued whining.

 

[Erebus]

I wanna see where her 1.3 million illegal purchasers are IN JAIL because if they were trying to buy a gun illegally, that's a crime, right?

I think every time NICS issues a denial they +1 their total. The question is if they -1 the total when someone calls and NICS made an oops and tells them to go pick up their gun.

Is it wrong that I don't feel bad at all that Jim Brady was shot?

In a word, yes. He didn't deserve it and is now basically a captive in his own body. If he had been crippled in a car accident and he and his wife had never started their anti-gun campaign would you feel different? I don't wish debilitating injury on anyone and feel bad for anyone that has suffered one.

It happened over 20 years ago, get over it!

And they both still have to deal with it every day of their lives. Frankly it's impossible for them to 'get over it' he will never fully recover. And they will always have to deal with the physical ramifications of what occured over 20 years ago.

While I completely disagree with their quest to disarm everyone I feel bad that they have been put through this.

 

[chemist308]

Well done. We posted so many pro- gun comments that they couldn't filter us out fast enough.

I guess mine was a little too well spoken for her liking so it was deleted! This shouldn't surprise me. There are so many #@%&#%& lies spoken from her campaign--what's a little censorship Only serves to prove that the Brady campaign would like the 1'rst Ammendment edited as well. After all, we're talking about someone who can be verifiably quoted as seriously saying "Our goal of a socialist America..." and then later spread lies that she never said it.

If anyone from the Brady campaign happens to moniter this, please know this only strengthens our resolve.


Edit: I spent some more time reading her discussion board, and somehow my post wasn't deleted, but bumped from 89 to 106... All I have to say is wow that board got mixed up. There was likely some really creative "moderating" going on.

 

[mike101]

jpk1md

duplicate.........Sorry

 

[mike101]

jpk1md

That was 84 MILLION, not 84,000!!! I'll bet you knew that, and it was just a typo. And, you're absolutely right. If 2 million of us showed up in DC, that would send a huge message to the rest of the country. Hell, if 100,000 of us did, that would be great. Count me in. I'm only 2.5 hours from DC.

Hey, maybe THR could help organize it. I wonder why the NRA or GOA hasn't done something like that already. It wouldn't have to be a big deal, dragging people in from all over the country. I'm sure there are enough of us within a few hours of DC. Something like 80% of the population lives in the NE Corridor. Strategically, when do you think would be a good time?

Quote:
"It would not surprise me one bit if we were all to discover that Sarah Brady were armed to the teeth...after all as one of the few "elite" has need for CCW...

Me either! Just like Dianne Feinstien, Barbara Boxer, Rosie O'Donnell. I'd love to know how many other leading antis have guns. I once suggested to Oleg that he do a poster about anti-elitist hypocrites. I'd really like to find out about Ted Kennedy (I just know he's got something tucked away), and Frank Lautenburg , and Michael Bloomberg.

And what about that thread being closed down by the Brady Bunch? Other threads get hundreds of responses. The "Terrorist Rifle" thread had 520 resonses. Those people are so transparent, it's laughable.

 

[Cosmoline]

Agreed. I posted a comment to this effect. I basically asked her what she would do if an armed criminal broke into her MD home. I pointed out that Jim is wheelchair bound and thus can't protect himself or her.

What chance do you think there is that she DOESN'T have armed guards on patrol?

 

[XD Fan]

Originally posted by Erebus

Quote:
Is it wrong that I don't feel bad at all that Jim Brady was shot?

In a word, yes. He didn't deserve it and is now basically a captive in his own body. If he had been crippled in a car accident and he and his wife had never started their anti-gun campaign would you feel different? I don't wish debilitating injury on anyone and feel bad for anyone that has suffered one.


Quote:
It happened over 20 years ago, get over it!

And they both still have to deal with it every day of their lives. Frankly it's impossible for them to 'get over it' he will never fully recover. And they will always have to deal with the physical ramifications of what occured over 20 years ago.

While I completely disagree with their quest to disarm everyone I feel bad that they have been put through this.

I agree with Erebus completely.

Originally posted by WayneDM

I hope somebody breaks into her Delmarva Peninsula sanctuary and makes her an unarmed victim. She needs to know what it's like to be a real victim.

I am also disappointed to see someone on The High Road wish that they should be victimized yet again and in thier own home this time. She and her husband already know what it is like to be a "real victim." She and her campaign really messed up, but that is no reason to wish additional violence on them. Even if this victimization did happen, I suspect it would make no difference in her thinking. Her husband was surrounded by men with guns when he was shot. It did not do him any good then. ( I am saying this from what I think her point of view would be. I am sure that those men with guns prevented further injury and even death on that day twenty years ago.) I suspect additional violence would make no difference in her position.