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They were probably concerned that some of it was probably 40 years old and stored in a cinder block basement and so who knows what’s still in good condition to fire. I see lots of old ammo at gun shows with very low price tags on it and everyone walks by it because they don’t want to spend there money on ammo that only god knows where it came from or how it was stored.
 
I hate to tell you guys, but Obama didn’t do one single thing that materially affected your ability to buy ammo. He didn’t even try to. It was all in your heads. Your irrational fear caused the shortage, not Obama.

I don't care who caused the shortage. Regardless of why, ammunition was hard to come by and the next time it's hard to come by I want to have some stocked up.
 
@rpenmanparker is neglecting a very long voting and campaigning history for his buddy Obama. While not much materially changed during his presidential office, his position on firearms, and especially his positions against self-defense use and concealed carry and his support of a reinstatement of the ‘94 AWB is well documented during his time in federal offices.

If a guy calls you on the phone once a month for YEARS and says he wants to take something from you, when he knocks on your door in person, you keep an eye on him.
 
@rpenmanparker is neglecting a very long voting and campaigning history for his buddy Obama. While not much materially changed during his presidential office, his position on firearms, and especially his positions against self-defense use and concealed carry and his support of a reinstatement of the ‘94 AWB is well documented during his time in federal offices.

If a guy calls you on the phone once a month for YEARS and says he wants to take something from you, when he knocks on your door in person, you keep an eye on him.

I agree with the history you reference. I'm just saying that he did not call out ammo and propose to make it harder to buy. Yet he is widely blamed for the shortages. In general the response to shooting incidents that cause so much agita on the left has focused strictly on the gun types and magazines. Ammo is pretty much ignored. Don't think I am advocating (at this moment) any particular regulation of gun ownership in general, but I fail to see how campaigning for universal background checks and restriction of assault rifle ownership rationally result in ammo hoarding.
 
If you can’t understand why gun owners might experience a bit of panic when a person who has called forth prohibition of their property and restriction of their basic human right as reflected in the Bill of Rights reaches the most powerful position in the World, then I think I made a mistake in taking you off of my ignore list.
 
If you can’t understand why gun owners might experience a bit of panic when a person who has called forth prohibition of their property and restriction of their basic human right as reflected in the Bill of Rights reaches the most powerful position in the World, then I think I made a mistake in taking you off of my ignore list.
No. I don’t think you made a mistake. And seriously I’m glad to be back on your “read” list. I respect your opinion and hope you can reciprocate. Personally if I wanted an assault rifle, I would be worried. If I wanted to run it with huge magazines I would be worried. But until I hear someone on the national stage suggest that ammo purchases need to be limited regarding quantities and types, I can’t get worked up about it. No matter how fierce the clamor for gun controls, ammo just isn’t mentioned. If the effort to control guns, where all the energy is, has been so unsuccessful, why should we worry about ammo, which even the most rabid antis don’t seem to care about. You can think me wrong, but you have to face one fact. If everyone thought like me, there wouldn’t have been a shortage.
 
If you can’t understand why gun owners might experience a bit of panic when a person who has called forth prohibition of their property and restriction of their basic human right as reflected in the Bill of Rights reaches the most powerful position in the World, then I think I made a mistake in taking you off of my ignore list.
One other thing. Your use of the word panic really agrees with what I am saying. I said the fear of ammo controls was irrational. Panic suggests exactly that same thing, irrational fear and response to it. At least it does to me. We aren’t as much in disagreement as you might think.
 
One other thing. Your use of the word panic really agrees with what I am saying. I said the fear of ammo controls was irrational. Panic suggests exactly that same thing, irrational fear and response to it. At least it does to me. We aren’t as much in disagreement as you might think.
When gun owner's rights are attacked because of the sick acts of a few deranged people the slippery slope of gun control becomes slicker and slicker. Someone tried to sue Bushmaster for making a gun that was used for violence. Someone tried to sue Luckygunner.com for selling large amounts of ammo. It never just stops at the gun, it gets carried forward to other items, whether you are paying attention or not. The courts have fortunately shown pretty good sense at throwing those cases out, but judges die and new ones get appointed. The president appoints SC judges, and congress creates and modifies laws. Depending on who is elected those laws can change. Anyone paying any attention at all to gun rights sees that, and the logical human response is that "I want to be able to use my stuff, so I need to procure the supplies I need to make that happen." The linkage from words of gun control to a response of purchasing supplies is direct and obvious. Guns don't go bang unless they have ammo to shoot, and when people start blaming inanimate objects for crime, what's the next inanimate object that will be taken away? In fact I would say it would almost be a foregone conclusion that ammo would become restricted eventually if we allow particular guns to be restricted, because restricting the sale and ownership of those guns will not solve the problem of mass shootings. So eventually, someone will want to limit ammo to prevent the use of legally owned guns.

Obama's response pretty much every time there was a large scale shooting was to make comments that we need common sense gun laws and legislation. Those words may not attack ammo in any direct way, but they set us on the path and thought process that can lead to it. So shooters respond by buying what they will need to make sure they get to keep shooting. The linkage between words of gun control and shooter induced ammo shortages is obvious.

This is totally off topic for this thread, but so were the comments leading to this point. I imagine thread lock is coming.
 
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No. I don’t think you made a mistake. And seriously I’m glad to be back on your “read” list. I respect your opinion and hope you can reciprocate. Personally if I wanted an assault rifle, I would be worried. If I wanted to run it with huge magazines I would be worried. But until I hear someone on the national stage suggest that ammo purchases need to be limited regarding quantities and types, I can’t get worked up about it. No matter how fierce the clamor for gun controls, ammo just isn’t mentioned. If the effort to control guns, where all the energy is, has been so unsuccessful, why should we worry about ammo, which even the most rabid antis don’t seem to care about. You can think me wrong, but you have to face one fact. If everyone thought like me, there wouldn’t have been a shortage.

California now requires background checks to buy ammo. I do agree with you that the ammo panic was not caused by any actual legislation or action by Obama, and I don't recall ever hearing him talk about such, though certainly someone will find something to correct me with. In any case I can see why people reacted the way they did and I don't blame anyone for it, it just is what it is. I once thought similarly on assault rifles, I never had one or wanted one, but it will not stop there, they will just keep picking away at little things with small little legislation's banning and restricting things until we are all left with muzzle loaders. There will never be a broad sweeping ban on ammo or guns, there will just be lots of little ones to keep making it more difficult, inconvenient, and expensive to have and enjoy guns.
 
Sure, glad I don’t own any assault rifles.

Sure hope a bunch of morons going after assault rifles don’t ban my hunting rifles or my self-defense pistols.

(Also sure glad forums have ignore list functions).
 
All good comments. Not off topic if the thread starter doesn’t think so, right? So there you go.
 
I agree wholeheartedly with that, but no matter how much you lay in, it would always be a finite resource. Besides, it gives me an excuse to someday add a smokepole to my small collection. I have no illusions about my prowess at chemistry regarding homemade blackpowder, but it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility.

Won't specify but you can technically recharge primers. If you were to follow the .22Rimfire Reloading practice for accusing,g primers. Blanks, and nail gun ammo could be modified. BlackPowder firearms, repeaters and breaks are an,important survival tool if you ask me. While a 1873 isn't as sexy as an AR, it can run on BP and wont die doing it.
 
Sorry, but forgot to mention/edites my comment wrong.

.25-20, .32-20, .30-30, .32-40, .44-40, .38-40, .38-55, .40-90, .45-70, .45-90, .50-90 and plenty mixed in. A lever or pump gun in these Calibers would be very handy. Antique status should be exploited while,it can be. There are a lot of pre1896 firearms that are reliable repeaters.

.32 & .38 S&W are good BP pocket gun/SD calibers. Better than sharp sticks when the smokeless has run dry. You can scavenge primer material and remove the dents in primers. Least worth a shot, still agree with a flintlock and such.
 
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Sure, glad I don’t own any assault rifles.

Sure hope a bunch of morons going after assault rifles don’t ban my hunting rifles or my self-defense pistols.

(Also sure glad forums have ignore list functions).

After the incident in Texas, no guns are off the table. Get them while you can, dont forget about Antiques.
 
Won't specify but you can technically recharge primers. If you were to follow the .22Rimfire Reloading practice for accusing,g primers. Blanks, and nail gun ammo could be modified. BlackPowder firearms, repeaters and breaks are an,important survival tool if you ask me. While a 1873 isn't as sexy as an AR, it can run on BP and wont die doing it.

I heard of a guy who was able to reload 7.62x54 that way, using those 'snappers', nail polish remover, and an eyedropper.
 
How many do you need? Can you carry and operate more than a couple? I have plenty.

That part there, the 'how many can you carry' part was one reason I shed my excess firearms. Over the last few years, I've given some thought into that. I'm by no means a wealthy man, and a couple times in the past have been 'housing challenged', to spin it nicely.

Everything I owned had to fit in one car or vanload, sometimes a lot less, and after a few times, I looked at my collection and wondered which one I would have to leave behind if I truly had to get out of Dodge.

That's why I culled my armory down to the neat and tidy assortment I own now. One rifle, one shotgun, and three pistols is still more than I can comfortably carry should I be reduced to leather personnel carriers, but at least I wouldn't be leaving much in the way of goodies for whoever comes scratching around my former digs.

I'm even seriously considering combining the .22 and shotgun, if I can find a combo gun that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I know this is a little off track from the OP's original intent, but one of the main drivers for my personal caliber choices.
 
To each his own

I can see ones thought process on having no more than they can comfortably carry and all. Especially is circumstances suggest it being the way to go.

Like myself OTOH, I enjoy taking a few guns out and killing paper or plinking cans and such just for the point of enjoying a particular firearm. I enjoy shooting and thoroughly enjoy shooting all kinds of different guns. All different style guns and several different cartridges.

Then, I also enjoy the hunting of a few different critters and have guns that fit that billing. I also have a right to defend my and my families life so I equip myself for that as well. Then when I do compete, or for home defense......and so on.


For me I don't know of a gun that would fit all of my needs/wants and even if there was, I wouldn't want to just have one. They are not all just tools to me. Some are, most aren't. They are my passion and something i love doing. I like the history of some guns, how efficient some are, and the performance of others.

One cartridge or caliber just won't do it for me.
 
......why should we worry about ammo, which even the most rabid antis don’t seem to care about. You can think me wrong, but you have to face one fact. If everyone thought like me, there wouldn’t have been a shortage.

That's just patently false.

Didn't they try to ban M855?

How about H.R.3962 in 2017?

How about Giffords proposing limiting and reporting ammo sales?

How about the states that passed ammo restriction laws with support of thier US senators that were also bending Obamas ear?

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That's just patently false.

Didn't they try to ban M855?

How about H.R.3962 in 2017?

How about Giffords proposing limiting and reporting ammo sales?

How about the states that passed ammo restriction laws with support of thier US senators that were also bending Obamas ear?
Or how about this that was just on TV?View attachment 790986







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How about the states that passed ammo restriction laws with support of thier US senators that were also bending Obamas ear?

Or how about this that was just on TV?
NY effectively killed Internet ammo sales with the ammo-background-check portion of the SAFE Act. Although the state backpedaled on implementation when they realized how much their ammo-buyers database was going to cost to get off the ground, the law is still on the books and has had the effect of scaring retailers away from shipping to NY despite it being completely legal until such time as the state gets the database going, which is probably going to be never. The antis got what they wanted, even with an unenforceable law.
 
Every time I've used an ignore feature I've had to undo it if only to confirm why I used it in the 1st place.
 
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