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Savage 12FV on sale

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by KYregular, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. Varminterror

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    I have a hard time justifying 22-250 if you already own 223. The 223 will handle heavy bullets better than the .22-250, so the max utilizable range really isn’t so different for the two. Comparing 50grn loads in both, the 22-250 screams away from the 223, but I’m happy to use less powder and get better barrel life from a 77smk on prairie dogs just as far as I can get the 50 Vmax to run from the 250 case. A fast twist barrel for 22-250 changes things, but the factory 12 ain’t that.

    The 22-250 and 243win, markedly moreso the 243win, are indeed hammers on coyotes. I’ve often said, the more I use the .243win, the more I find it to be the most efficient, ideal whitetail deer hunting cartridge - and the ability to be SOMEWHAT fur friendly more easily than other deer rifles is a huge bonus for me.

    If I were in your shoes, owning 2 223’s and scratching at a long range precision itch, I would be buying the .243win or 6.5creed, not a 22-250. Yes, heavier bullets and more powder means more cost, but they’re still very inexpensive to feed compared to other, more traditional long range hunter cartridges (30-06, 7rm, etc). Your 223’s are within 50-100yrds of what a .22-250 can do, and the wind smears light bullets all over the target. Jumping to .243win has a little bit of the slow twist problem of the 22-250, as the Savage is 1:9.25”, but jumping even up to the 95’s gives you a lot more range and target response (metal or meat) than the 22cals. The Creedmoor uses a tad less powder and a tad more bullet, but comes factory fresh with a better twist for the 140/147’s. Do your practicing with the 223’s you have, that saves money on ammo, then do your long distance calls with a 6-6.5mm
     
  2. ohihunter2014

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    I figured i would give the itch a slight scratch this summer and run the 223rem provided those heavier bullets workout and if i like shooting the rifle matches ill try and pickup one of these in a larger caliber. I guess the reasoning behind always wanting a 22.250 was growing up it was what everyone else had for woodchucks and coyotes and due to the speed of it and just sounding like a bad ass cartridge it made me want one. :) From what I've gathered is my 223rem will do the same just a little slower but having an excuse for another rifle that uses the same bullet and powder as the 223rem just to mess around with was weighing on me. I'm a sucker for a good deal!
     
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  3. Varminterror

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    I did neglect/forget to mention - a 22-250 was the first coyote rifle I bought as a kid. It’s one of my favorite cartridges on the market. BUT, alas, despite a deep subjective love, my objective reasoning wins out and I far more often reach for a .223rem when a varmint rifle is called.

    The Cabela’s deal is a great one, so buyin both isn’t too far out of reach. If I could only have one .22-250 in my life, however, it would be a 700 Sendero, fluted stainless, threaded for a can, wearing a 6-24x optic. But again - objectively, I take a .223rem AR with an FFP a lot more often.
     
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  4. dagger dog

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    Mine is old enough to have the standard narrow forearm that has been opened up to fit the heavy barrel. With the barreled action installed in the factory stock you can flex the forearm to touch the barrel. Like I posted previous it is pillar bedded and shoots well but I wanted a varmint style forearm, if you want to pay postage I'll give you the stock. :D
     
  5. horsey300

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    I agree for the most part with the recommendation of the .243, the savage twist will stabilize 95 - 100 gr boattails (ballistic tips and gameking). The other merits of the cartridge can't be touted enough to be sure, but whilst I own rifles in .223 .22-250 and .243, the .223 and .243 get the most use by far! That being said, SOME savages come out of the factory now with a faster twist, but I'm not sure which models. Even a .22-250 with the faster twist (for the time being) will be limited to target bullets for downrange performance whilst the .243 can still splode varmints with great ballistic tables on its side. Just some food for thought, and for the record, if we weren't saving up for another move, there would be several of these babies leaving the cabelas inventory rather quickly.
     
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  6. someguy2800

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    I was going to recommend the. 243 as well but cabelas doesn't list it for the 12fv
     
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  7. ohihunter2014

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    Well sorry to hijack the OP's thread with my "nonsense" I got hammered with a rather large tire bill, front end alignment last night and then got an alert i forgot to make a student loan payment last month so all my fun money is gone! No Savage 12fv for me for awhile. :(
     
  8. Reloadron
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    I have a friend who took out a student loan back when we were our early 30s (about 38 years ago). Rather than school he partied away the money. When he went and applied for his social security they began garnishing $130 a month from his checks. He figures he will be dead before the load is paid. The government has a long memory, real long. Unfortunately this friend also worked many, many years "under the table" so his monthly income with social security is only about $700 after the $130 for the unpaid student loan. :(
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    There will be other sales so don't worry about it.

    Ron
     
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  9. ohihunter2014

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    If it wasn't for the oh crap i didn't pay last months and this months due tomorrow and the truck repairs i would have a new toy but as i was always told being an adult comes first.
     
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    My guess is you are still young and unmarried. Then the day comes with a wife and kids so beanies and weenies on a table comes before shooting supplies, guns and ice cream is a luxury. Then comes the days again where the kids are grown with kids of their own, you are retired and everyday is a holiday and every meal a feast. Guns and days at the range again prevail and you wonder where the hell the last 30 years went. There will be more gun sales and like I said, the government has a real long memory on loans, just ask my friend Louie. :)

    Ron
     
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  11. ohihunter2014

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    HAHA. Always words of wisdom from you Ron. Yep, i'm a young buck at a ripe old age of 30yo.
     
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  12. Newtosavage

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    Aaaalllllmmmmooooosst there. :D
     
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  13. someguy2800

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    Long way to go for me, the 2nd ankle biter will be here in October.
     
  14. LUCKYDAWG13

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    My last one is 19 and has one foot out the door I my have to have a look at this rifle
     
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    Same for me except July... Got another boy on the way. At least my two oldest like shooting, so it's often a family thing.

    Back to the OP, I eyeball these rifles every time they go on sale, but this time a Savage barrel wrench is shipping to my house as we speak, so I am even more interested!
     
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  16. LUCKYDAWG13

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    can you change the barrels out on the FV
     
  17. Varminterror

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    Yes, the same as any other Savage 10/110 platform rifle.
     
  18. KYregular

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    Probably hold off myself on the 12FV, and get the 300 win mag I had planned on before I saw this sale. Weatherby Vanguard 2 or Browning x bolt, back to that decision.
     
  19. KYregular

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    Congrats
     
  20. KYregular

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    Hang in there, been there myself. Sometimes instead of buying another gun, we just take the one's we have and become bettet shots
     
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