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Savage 340: Does anyone still love them?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by OldSchooler, Jul 11, 2006.

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  1. OldSchooler

    OldSchooler Member

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    I've been making some decisions lately, as opposed to merely dreaming, :what: and I have fallen in some sort of infatuation with this gun. Those in the know and who were around when the earth was still flat, will recall that they were also sold as Stevens 325/Springfield 840.

    I want it in .30WCF, for a coupla reasons:
    1. I am getting a .35 Rem Marlin and don't really want another levergun in 30-30.
    2. I want to use certain spitzers and do some handloading for them.
    3. They are as light and totable as any gun. All day little shooters...

    Who here likes them, and why? More importantly, does anyone have a spare taking up space in the cabinbet that they would sell to a good home?

    Thanks....
     
  2. db_tanker

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    Dang...I think I might have started somthing here. :) lol


    Didn't mean to...


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  3. ROCKSHUND

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    Find a good one, and have fun. My 340 is a .222 Rem, I'm giving it to my daughter soon. You've listed the reasons why I think that the 30/30 would be a neat, fun little rifle. -FNR.
     
  4. Eagle1899

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    I have a 340 in 30-30 with a very nice walnut stock. 3x9 Bushnell in a weaver side mount, that was inletted for instead of the normal cut out. It shoots very well with both cast loads and jacketed. I recently skim bedded the barrel and lug (at normal contact points) and found that while the accuracy is near same, the point of impact after stock removal now remains the same. Always wanted to find a beater and rebarrel it in 7x30 Waters!!! to match my Contender.
     
  5. carp killer

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    I like the 340's. I've got the 340 in .225, .222 and 30WCF. I'm looking for a gunsmith who can do a good job of rebarreling the 30-30 to .25-35. Does anyone have somebody they have used who can do the job?
     
  6. Gewehr98

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    I miss my .30-30 Savage Model 340...

    One accurate, simple, and reliable bolt-action rifle chambered for a wonderful round, easy to shoot, detachable box magazine, and rugged good looks, even if it was a bargain rifle.

    I lost it to my ex-wife as part of the divorce agreement. I understand she still shoots it on a regular basis. I'll have to find another Model 340 one of these days. :(
     
  7. mc223

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    I have the Stevens version 322 in 22 Hornet, simple, quick and accurate. wouldn't have it another way.
     
  8. OldSchooler

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    I appreciate all the great comments. I will be going after my .35 Remmy this week and then be on the scoutout for a 340 or derivative. Any body done any handloading specifically for this rifle in .30-30?
     
  9. jrfoxx

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    I have one in 30-30 that I inherited from my father-in-law.Nice gun, light and handy.My only beef is that mine came with VERY rudimentary sights (look very much like the sights from bb guns I had as a kid) and is not able to take a scope without having holes drilled in it (which I prefer not to do, out of respect for the wife). Mine definitely needs one too, as it shoots 6" to the right at 50 yds (it was stored in a closet with no case for many years, and I suspect it fell over at some point and damaged the sights, although I cant see anything obvious).It would be a great deer gun if I could get it to shoot straight.A real shame.I know some of the later ones had holes for scope mounting, and came with better sights, but mine is from the late 50's, early 60's).
     
  10. GooseGestapo

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    I had one back in early-mid '80's, and shot and loaded alot for it.

    Most of the caveats that apply to loading the .30wcf in the leveractions apply to it as well. Only difference is that you CAN safely use the Pointed Spitzer style bullets in it.

    The 340 is not as strong as most bolt actions and is the reason that it was never loaded in any real high pressure cartridges. The exceptions were the .222 and .223, mainly because of the extra mass of the barrels with similar contour and low bolt thrust of the smaller case heads was "OK", but some I've seen would render the brass essentially unreloadable after the first firing. (.223's)

    I got very acceptable accuracy from mine, but it never equaled a Rem. m788 that I had a decade earlier. Remmy' would shoot 3shot clover leafs with 130gr Speer HP's and Imr-4320.

    I loaded a few pointed bullets in it (m340), but I found that most of the pointed bullets are intended for higher velocity cartridges such as '06, and 300magnums, such that performance is less than desireable at nominal .30wcf velocities. (read very poor expansion at ranges beyond what you would normally use RN's anyway).

    An exception was/is the 125gr Nosler Balistic Tip. Other good bullets are the 125gr Sierra PtSP, and 125-130gr Speer PtSP and HP. The Remington 125gr PtSP deserves some serious attention too. (Note it is not a "Cor-lokt", and is considered a "varmint" bullet in .308 and .30/06).

    I got fabulous accuracy from my m788 and m340 with the Speer 130gr HP and IMR-3031. Approx 33.0gr if my memory serves me correctly.

    These days, I use RL-15 for equal accuracy and 150fps greater velocity with 150gr Rem Corlokt RN's This bullet has a good ballistic coefficient and is "engineered" for optimal performance. It is now my GO-TO bullet for all .30wcf usage.

    My 340 had the side mount and scope that it came with as a "package" when originally sold by Western Auto in the late '60's. Prior to my acquisition, the stock had been abused. I refininshed to orignial appearance and was a good shooter.

    I primarily got it to shoot cast bullets, because of it's 6-groove rifleing was much better with .308-.309" bullets. It shot VERY WELL with a Lee .309 150gr FNGC over 28.0gr of IMR-3031.

    I now find that my micro-groove rifle (Marlin/Glenfield m30) shoots .310-.311" bullets just as well, so I "Parted" with the bolt-action for some other "gotta have" project many years ago.

    Some of the earlier guns didn't have recievers drilled and tapped for scope mounts. Because of the open top reciever, this gun requires a "side mount", but it centers the scope over the bore.

    There are also some variants with a 24"bbl, and they have a "butter knife" style bolt handle. These in my opinion are the more favorable. An aquaintance had one of these with a Weaver K-4 scope. He had been around the world with it both in US military, and later as a Missionary. He had a number of exotic game heads he had taken with it. Even had some South African mfg. ammo that he claimed was unbelievable on "wart hogs". He had "head" to show for it too!


    You should be able to find one for a reasonable price.

    A good shooter if the bore is in good shape!!!!
     
  11. JBP

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    I just picked up a 325B in 30-30 at Gunrbroker.com. It is in great condition and is just missing a magazine which already is on its way from Numrich. I'll see how the accuracy is and if necessary will get a Weaver side mount and scope for it. I already have a scoped 32B in .222 and it's one of my favorite (& accurate) rifles.
     
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    My only complaint was that they did not just fall from the ugly tree, but that they were made from the ugly tree..... they worked fine, just do not loose a mag.
     
  13. OldSchooler

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    Okay, admittedly, they are not much in the looks department. And that open topped receiver makes a scope mount an even funkier proposition. But they are such a handy little piece that I lament never having gotten one before, when the gettin' was good.

    On that subject, are they up to the Marlin 336 in terms of pressure limits? I can just see one of them in .30-30 Ackley Improved...

    Please, doesnt someone have on they can part with?
     
  14. Grayrock

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    Just (re)- acquired a 340 C in .222 Rem. It was the first rifle I ever shot at a deer with a long time ago. I thought it had been stolen, but my mom found it in the back of my late father's closet. When were these made? What did they sell for new? Anyone know what the normal length of pull is? Anyone have pics with one with a peep sight? How does a .222 compare with a .223, or .243 or 6mm ballistically?
     
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  15. BBA

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    I have the Springfield w/ a scope and the 2x4 stock. My son has the Savage with a nice walnut stock, both are 30WCF. We have been shooting cast bullits with good results at 50 yards. Haven't had the time to play at the 100yd range yet. Lyman 311041 and some 3031 is a good combo. Rimmed rounds aren't supposed to work well in bolt actions, I guess the Russian mosins never worked.
     
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    I do! A very nice one with a custom thumbhole stock.......The problem is you'll have to bid on it.:evil:
     
  17. Grayrock

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    Mine has the folding rear buckhorn sight. How exactly is the folding option used? Is it just to make it less prone to snagging or is it a 2 distance sighting mechanism (closer distance when folded down and farther distance when folded up)? When folded down it still seems to have a rear sighting groove. Also- anyone have a disassembly schematic for this rifle?
     
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    This is an older Stevens 30-30. Still holds its zero year after year. Stock has been refinished and trigger guard replaced.

    TR
     
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    Just a note on the 325....

    Love the shape of the bolt handle, BUT..it will interfere with a scope using to Savage 340 mount...trustme on this one. Essex
     
  21. rr2241tx

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    Dad has a Stevens 325 .30-30 with the Springfield sidemount and 4X Springfield scope. My father bought it new for $33. I just got through refinishing the stock. The last time it was shot was 1996 and probably the last time it was cleaned was 1947. After dissolving lots of copper fouling and oiling everything, it missed the paper with the fouling shot then put 3 in the 10 ring at 100 yards. I cleaned and oiled it then signed and dated the target and gave it back to him. It will be shot again when I inherit it.
     
  22. Vern Humphrey

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    There's your problem -- they were made when the earth was flat, and the sun and moon circled us. So there is no allowance for coriolis effect and the bullets fly in circles.:p
     
  23. Shawnee

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    I would be hard-pressed to say I "love" the 340, or even that I would spend money to get one, but they were/are pretty decent utilitarian rifles. I shot a couple, both in 30/30 and both wearing low power scopes. Both shot with easily adequete accuracy for deer hunting.

    An older Savage I would really like to have is the break-open model 219 in .22 Hornet.

    :cool:


    Nice-lookng custom job there, Krochus !
     
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    My father had one in .22 Hornet, was accurate as can be, but had extraction problems. We never did get that totaly resolved.

    I mounted up a scope on one for an ex-coworker not too long back. Midway has scope mounts that are pretty cool. Bolt right on the holes in the receiver side.

    Sighted it in and it was superbly accurate. That gun was a Stevens something or other, basicaly a Savage 340.

    Oh, it was a .222 rifle, and used .223 magazines!
     
  25. Mikee

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    What's NOT to love about the 30-30 bolt action rifles? I have 8 of them and am looking for # 9. The first one was purchased at the ripe old age of 14 from Montgomery Wards (Westernfield) in the fall of 1968 through their catalog for $64.99. It has seen 40 hunting seasons and shoots 1" groups at 100 yds with factory Silvertip 170 gr ammo better today than when it was new. You can't beat their accuracy, reliability, weight, or handling for the money. I am looking for the rifle that was made for CIL (Canadian Industries LTD) According to crossover tables it is the model 830. I do not know if CIL had any other trade name on the rifle such as "Westpoint", "Revelation", "Westernfield", or "Foremost" . Can anyone help me out with this? Hope there are many out there who have more info and/or can find me one.
     
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