Sawed offs are da bomb (or "2LTs with too much time and money on their hands)

[TMM]

Nice job! personally, i'd get rid of the "humps" on the back of the handles - unless it makes it easier to handle?? stain and finish the cut part of the wood so it looks finished - perhaps round the corners better? get come gun blue for the cut metal areas.(barrel)

I like it! the O/U looks hella fun, good truck gun, or perhaps a pump would be better for that - reliable, and more rounds...

~tmm

 

['Card]

The only line I see in there appears to have been applied with mascara.

 

[scout26]

The only line I see in there appears to have been applied with mascara.

They're Air Farce Officers, mascara is part of the uniform.


Count me in with the "Never take a hacksaw to a perfectly good shotgun, when you can buy a PGO 18.5" barrel Maverick 88 or Mossberg 500 for $150 or less" crowd.

Thank G-d, I was a mustang officer.

 

[U.S.SFC_RET]

Hey Lt have fun while you are young, what the heck you gotta do somrthing at Riley anyway right?. You are within law, Go have fun and shoot some birds close up.

 

[orangeninja]

I'd love to try that over/under.

 

[stiletto raggio]

After posting here, I copied and pasted the same post over at GlockTalk. The responses were somewhat less respectful. You can view my response here http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=5897912#post5897912

To those who like them, let me advise that the Aguila mini-slugs are by far teh most comfortable rounds to shoot from the O/U, and pretty accurate, too. Either gun can be fired easily from the tradition shotgun position, only without the but against the shoulder. Firing from the hip is pretty fun, though.

Also, I have noticed that a lot of people think 26" is longer than it is in reality. Get a yard stick: 26" is short, and frankly, I wouldn't want to go much shorter even if there was no law against it.

To clarify on another issue: I AM NOT AN AIR FORCE OFFICER. Nothing against eh Air Force; God knows I love having guaranteed air superiority. However, I am proud to be a member of both a service and a branch that sees significant action on the ground, US Army Military Police.

 

[stiletto raggio]

Also, we aren't wearing make-up. It's the lighting. I swear. Really.

 

[Gelicious]

I respect that you guys took the time to obey the law. You spent the money on thouse guns and you have the right to do whatever you want to them. Enjoy the guns and as long as you stay law abiding guys I have no problem with ya.

 

[Helstrm]

Nothing wrong with cutting the barrels short if they are legal but the wood work

You got to clean that up....

 

[fellow14]

Good on ya man. I sawed down an H&R shotgun a few weeks ago for my buddy. There are a lot of traditionalists that give people like yourself grief over something that really shouldn't matter to them. They are your guns chop em how you see fit. Maybe we could meet up sometime I would like to shoot those beasts.

 

[ABTOMAT]

What's the quote? "I may not agree with what you say but I'll figh to defend your right to say?" Well, if a couple of guys want to play dress-up and hack a couple of shotguns, who am I to argue?

 

[444]

Don't let the posts accusing you of being a felon bother you. It happens all the time.
I own a number of NFA items and am not the least bit afraid to buy more, including short barreled rifles (3) and short barreled shotguns (1). I am freqently accused of owning illegal items by people on this board that don't have the slightest idea of what they are talking about, yet have no problem posting their misinformation freely on a worldwide forum.

 

[perpster]

And the name of the thread is . . .

Didn't y'all notice the name of the thread ended with "2LTs with too much time and money on their hands"?

Whether you like or don't like what they did, if it's legal what's the big deal?

However, I do start to worry when an Army MP Lt and Air Force Lt seem to get along so well. What's this world coming to? Pretty soon you'll have the FBI and local police playing nicely together if this keeps up!

 

[gezzer]

They look neat to me! What a bunch of Fudds on this thread. I'll bet you would hate my Sebru Super shorty.

 

[RecoilRob]

I did a similar thing back in the mid '70s at Camp Lejeune with a single shot (I think Savage) shotgun. Ended up at absolute minimum dimensions +1/16.

Shot it only once. Used 3" Magnum Duck loads with 4 shot. Kicked kinda hard and drove the barrel break lever into the web of my hand about an inch and a half. Had to go for a couple of stitches to close up the wound.

Best part was when the MP's saw the gun the first time. There was much excitement and I got a ride in the cage on the back of a truck to the Brig. In handcuffs.

Spent quite a time there whilst all manner of MP's came to 'see the gun' that they had confiscated. After a LONG while, a Senior Officer showed up and actually spoke to me about the gun. "It is legal" I said. And gave him the 18"/26.5" numbers. No one had ANY idea what the legal dimensions actually were! Several long hours later..(of course, this was before the Internet) the word came down that the gun actually WAS legal! HaH!

They reluctantly let me go with my little gun. I imagine the whole deal would have been repeated every new duty station but I sold it to a fellow in an adjacent barraks who saw it in the trunk of my car.

Gave it to him with THE box of shells minus three...the one I shot....and two others fired by barracks mates who called me a pansy. Neither of them wanted to shoot more than the one they did. Fun stuff!!!

Reading this thread brought back memories of a time when I was just like them. Still like them mentally, just older now. Carry on men!

 

[mnrivrat]

I think opening up the gas tube a tiny bit would really make this gun reliable,

That's correct - with the shortened barrel the amount of gas supplied through the present gas vent hole in the barrel is less - therefore requiring a slightly larger hole to function with lighter loads.

 

[Preacherman]

Sawing-off an el cheapo double is fine for fun. I'd hate to see it done to an expensive gun, though... There's a local collector who has several dozen shotguns, including a number of the top names. A guncase was stolen out of his trunk once, containing a genuine Holland & Holland shotgun. When the cops recovered it, several months later, in a crack house, it had been sawed-off to 12"...

 

[50caliber123]

I'd love to get a cheap, used single-shot (around $50) and have the barrel shortened to about 18.5". I'd keep the stock on it, but that would be one helluva fun gun. Nest, I'd put one of those heat shields that has built in sights on the gun, and instant tactical single-shot.

 

[OEF_VET]

Don't let the posts accusing you of being a felon bother you. It happens all the time.
I own a number of NFA items and am not the least bit afraid to buy more, including short barreled rifles (3) and short barreled shotguns (1). I am freqently accused of owning illegal items by people on this board that don't have the slightest idea of what they are talking about, yet have no problem posting their misinformation freely on a worldwide forum.

+1 to everything my brother 444 has said.

I say, if they're your guns, you obey the law, and you find it enjoyable, rock on, brother. Should you choose to do so, Kansas does allow AOW's and SBR's/SBS's, but not suppressors or MG's. However, you'll need to consider the legalities of a registered NFA weapon whenever you PCS.

 

[Third_Rail]

A guncase was stolen out of his trunk once, containing a genuine Holland & Holland shotgun. When the cops recovered it, several months later, in a crack house, it had been sawed-off to 12"...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :banghead:

 

[wdlsguy]

Kansas does allow AOW's and SBR's/SBS's, but not suppressors or MG's.

Actually, Kansas does not allow mere citizens to own short-barreled shotguns (Kansas Statutes 21-4201).

 

[Ford]

Good gosh people, don't any of you remember being young and bored. It to me seems like it was a project they could do together and have some fun. Good job guys. Be proud, finish it up and don't worry about what half these guys say.

 

[Devonai]

Here's my H&R Topper cut from 30" to 20".

Yes, boredom has a lot to do with it. Some day I'll put a new bead sight on it.

 

[armoredman]

Now I like that....cheap single shot cut down legal length...That I might do someday. BTW, get a Mad Max holster for that O/U...not the same but close...waitaminnint, didn't Chuck Norris do a movie where a cut down O/U was his sidearm of choice?

 

[albanian]

I think some of these old sticks in the mud have forgotton that guns can be fun. Why have a folding stock on an AK? It doesn't do anything that it wouldn't do before. Not everything has to make sense. If you can have fun for $160, good for you. I think a lot of these guys that are bashing you are just mad because they spend $2000 on an over under and they know deep down that you are having alot more fun with your $160 gun.

Cutting down an over under is no great shame, I don't even like over unders. The Brazilian guns are good guns and I am surprised that you got one for $160. As for the semi-auto, I would have gone the pump route since they will be more reliable.

Do whatever you want. You know the law better than most of the people replying to the thread. Thanks for taking the time to post some pics. It does look a little Bubba but I bet you do a better job next time. I would guess that most gunsmiths started out as Bubbas. They messed with their guns for fun and eventually learned about them.