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Say you put too many primers in Lee safety prime feeder (.32 mag & 700x)

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Shivahasagun, Sep 27, 2021.

  1. Shivahasagun

    Shivahasagun Member

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    I thought I had a sliver of CCI 500's with 40 left. When I pulled it out it was actually full so I though, "Well, I'll just load all 50 then" :scrutiny:

    My first clue should have been trying to get all of those primers in the Lee feeder but no...just didn't see it. :scrutiny::scrutiny:

    I loaded up 25 rounds of one powder in my new Starline .32 mag brass and as I switched powders for the next 25...I realized I'd put 100 primers in the feeder. :uhoh:

    My first question is:

    Is it okay to leave primers in the feeder? I think I read that was bad practice. I certainly didn't want to try and put them back in the CCI sliver they came from.

    I decided to just keep loading up ammo. But I hadn't planned for that so I just kept on with the .32 mag and 700x I was already set up for.

    The thing is I haven't used 700x in .32 mag at all and was making my own "off book" starter load because I had no book load for 700x and a 100 gr lead flat nose bullet.

    So now I have 75 .32 mags with 100 gr flat nose SNS bullets over 3.0 gr of 700x.

    Second question: How do ya'll guess that load will turn out?

    If they turn out a little warm at least I'm firing them from a Ruger LCR .327 Federal 2 inch snub. Should be safe. I will chrono them and report back.

    The rounds look great. Looks like a perfect roll crimp to me. They are loaded a little long at 1.36-1.37 OAL. I believe the official OAL max is 1.350.
     
  2. Shivahasagun

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    Oh, I'd like to add that out of 100 new Starline cases and CCI 500 primers I had about 7 that were stubborn to very stubborn seating. (Lee four hole Turret Press)

    They would start to seat but stop and could not be removed from the case holder so I had no choice but to force them.

    I removed the primer feeder, moved the powder away, put on ear pro (had eye pro on already), told the wife she might hear a bang but everything was fine, and just used some muscle.

    I did the same for several of the later one's that were stubborn like that but they all popped into place and looked just fine.
     
  3. DanK3Pos

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    For the tough to load cases, did you check to make sure they primers were seated properly? I've never had a problem with seating primers in Starline brass, but I've never loaded .32 mag, either.

    I've never worked on a Lee turret, but I'm surprised there is no recourse with a stuck, partially seated primer. I mean, couldn't you just rotate the turret and deprime the case?
     
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  4. Demi-human

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    Too many, primers? Nope. No such thing.;)
    I don’t load 32 Mag either, be careful!:thumbup:
    I don’t leave the primers in, I take them out and put them all back in the sleeve.
     
  5. edwardware

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    You mean the tray they came in? Why?

    If you're not going to load them, put them back. Leaving them in the primer tray risks confusing them, or spilling them. Put them back in the package and away.

    And speaking of confusion: thou shalt never open more than one sort of primers or powder at a time, lest thou put them back in the wrong can/package.
    One sort at a time.
     
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  6. Bfh_auto

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    I seriously doubt your going to have a hot load.
    I ran a 98gr hbwc in my Nagant with 3 gr 700x.
    The case capacity is almost identical with the bullet seated inside the case. I got 650 fps give or take.
     
  7. Bcwitt

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    It's a SAFETY feeder. No worries.
     
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  8. Blue68f100

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    When I do, I put the Primer Sleeve around the feeder tube. This works a s a flag so I know whats in there. But I try not to load more than I'm going to use. But theirs time when my back tells me to stop before I finish.
     
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  9. Shivahasagun

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    Yes, I did look at what was going on before putting more muscle on it.

    I didnt consider using the deprimer. I figured that was just as likely to set it off as using more force to press it in. I dunno.
     
  10. Shivahasagun

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    How do you get them back in the sleeve?
     
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  11. Jim Watson

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    People find the strangest things on the internet to worry about.
    My primer feeds are never empty. The last thing I do when done for the day is to fill the primer magazine so all I have to do the next time is start pulling the handle.

    Making a load up out of whole cloth is a different matter, but 3 gr 700X 100 gr FP is below the Hodgdon starting load for a 100 gr JHP so you will be OK.
     
  12. Shivahasagun

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    Wow, okay. Thanks.

    I like 2.5gr of 700x with a 90 gr lead flat nose in .32 S&W Long and get about 725 fps from my snubbie LCR .327 IIRC. It feels a little peppy. I dont have a book load for .32 Long and 700x either.

    I saw 3.0 gr 700x was max for .32 Mag with a 90 gr lead bullet. I think 3.5 gr for a 100 gr jacketed.

    So, I figured 3.0 gr would be okay in my .327.
     
  13. M-14

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    Not trying to be a d**k but unless I'm totally misunderstanding,
    filling the case and then wondering how they will work out is totally backwards and "the" recipe for disaster. Not that any firearm blowing up is better than another, when a revolver fails it's pretty often the cylinder splits at the outside thin point.

    There is data on Hodgdon's website for 700X in .32 H&R mag and if you were really exploring uncharted territory there are ballistic programs available.
    Quickloads is spendy but lots of folks like it. I use Gordons Reloading Tool, the basic version is free and more than sufficient for most any application.

    As for primers, IMHO no they should not be left in the tray. For the sake of consistency they should not be left exposed to humidity for a extended time so I keep them in a sealed container with desiccant until use, plus I lose enough of them into the unknown without leaving them in a tray with a hole in it.
    I think they must go to the same place socks disappear to.
     
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  14. Demi-human

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    I don’t often stop short of one hundred. When I do I have used some, there are plenty of holes in the sleeve to shake the remainder into. I don’t care if they all land right side up, I’ll right them next time.
    Placing them in the corner of a larger box will help contain them as you shake it too.

    That sounds like you have enough space to leave everything out…;)
     
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  15. Jim Watson

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    Yes. The new house, replacing the one that burned in The Incident, has a substantial reloading room.
     
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  16. Cemetery21

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    I only ever use primer feeders for pistol, so I leave primers in each (large and small). I never load magnum primers, so there is no mix-up about what's in the trays. No difference in exposure - they are in plastic feeders instead of factory plastic trays.

    Rifle, I use hand primers and only load for the number of brass I'm working.

    If you load different types/brands of primers, probably best to label feeders or put unused primers back in packaging. I used to be very careful about even touching primers, but I've learned that they are pretty hard to kill/contaminate.
     
  17. mdi

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    Don'use a Lee primer, but as a habit, i put everything away when done reloading. Powder measure emptied, left over primers returned to sleeve and tools put away. Life long machinist/mechanic so habit to put EVERYTHING away when done, and works quite well for my reloading components too...
     
  18. Shivahasagun

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    Same.
    I keep it neat.
     
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