Scary people at the range.

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A week ago I was at the range playing with my latest AR build. There was a father and two sons shooting. They were all shooting random guns and like always, I keep the corners of my eyes on people for safety.

I notice the father constantly having problems with his Glock. Eventually the guy comes up to me and asks "can you help me?" and just hands me this locked up gun. I tell him to set it on the bench since he was actually pointing it at his sons at this point.

I see it's not fully forward and a shell is jammed in. I ask him if it's loaded and he wasn't sure. I safely beat the gun open and find a 9x18 Makarov jammed in it. :uhoh:

I told him he might want to stop shooting that through it. lol
 
I laughed out loud when I read the 9x18 makarov part, happens sometimes though, a round falls into the wrong box and you load it by accident without looking.
 
Was he firing a whole box of 9x18 Makarov through it?

I once put a round of .41 Magnum through a .44-40 lever rifle because it had been in a box of .44-40.

Atleast the guy asked for help in spite of pointing the gun at his kid .....:scrutiny:
 
I've been swept by muzzles more times than I can count at our local public range. The RO's a good and attentive, but they don't have eyes on the back of their heads.
 
I guess I should consider myself lucky that I haven't had any bad experiences with unsafe behavior at my local range. Everyone seems to be have a clue as to what they are doing, save for the occasional "gangstas" shooting a pump 12ga at the dirt 20ft away on a 100yd rifle range, but I am sure that most public ranges have to deal with them from time to time...

It seems more often these days I do my shooting on a friends land where there is nobody else around for miles, and I definitely prefer it that way.
 
I was shooting with friends. Knew them all very well. One had a Taurus Judge. As you know its chambered for .45 Colt/410 and we all wanted to give it a try. Two had shot, then the owner shot. The groups were not what I expected from these guys. As he handed me the pistol he opened the cylinder to empty it. I asked" why are you shooting those in your gun?"
him: Well, its chambered for .45 Colt."
Me: " yep...but those are .44-40"
He almost choked! He had looked at .45s, the salesman put them back while they talked...then picked up the .44-40 as they finalized the purchase. My friend did not notice.

Accidents do happen.

Its good you were able to help the guy out.

Mark
 
I saw a similar situation with a guy shooting a Ruger MKII. It choked on a .17HM2 round that was in there with the .22LRs. The best part was that he then started yelling at his two sons, who were with him: "Who put that in there?!"
 
This one time, I shot a whole cylinder of .38 special out a .357 magnum! But everything worked out okay in the end, thank goodness...
:D
Aren't revolvers beautiful?
I do that dozens of times per range session! Sometimes when I'm in a wierd mood I shoot .32 ACP and S&W Longss out of a Nagant revolver!

Silly bottom feeders can't hang.
 
I safely beat the gun open and find a 9x18 Makarov jammed in it.

I told him he might want to stop shooting that through it. lol

woah......... using x18 in a luger? thats scray...Why do people do these thigns ....
 
woah......... using x18 in a luger? thats scary

The 1mm shorter case isn't a big deal, it's the .010" larger diameter bullet that makes things interesting.
 
Friend couldn't get his Browning BDM to run with 380. Wonder why? I pointed that out to him.
 
The bullet diameters of 38 special and .357 magnum are both .375. The only difference in the ammunition is the length of the casing. Therefore 38 special can be loaded and fired in a .357 magnum but the magnum rounds will not fit into a 38 special because the casing is .10 inch longer than the special.
 
The bullet diameters of 38 special and .357 magnum are both .375. The only difference in the ammunition is the length of the casing. Therefore 38 special can be loaded and fired in a .357 magnum but the magnum rounds will not fit into a 38 special because the casing is .10 inch longer than the special.

Actually they are .357 diameter, and the case difference is more like .125".
 
Actually they are .357 diameter, and the case difference is more like .125".

I knew those .375 Mags looked a little too long... and talk about loud!! I was going to give up ever firing that revolver again, maybe now I'll put it back together and try again.

:evil:
 
I told him he might want to stop shooting that through it. lol

Did you take the time to explain the differences and perhaps let him know about the 4 rules for the safety of him and his sons? Everyone has to start somewhere. It's good more people are taking up shooting and being friendly and helpful instead of condescending will keep them in the sport and on our side.
 
Quote: This one time, I shot a whole cylinder of .38 Spl through my .357 magnum

You can shoot .38 spl's through your .357 all day long, they are completely interchangable. That's the beauty of the .357 in my opinion. I love shooting .38's through a big old trash can of a .357, groups get really tight.
 
One of my relatives has a S&W Highway Patrolman's model .357magnum and I actually prefer shooting .38spl's through it, The .38spl's turn that gun into a mosquito sniper.
 
Quote: They are completely interchangable

Excuse me, they are not "completely" interchangable. Sorry, please don't try shooting .357magnum's through a .38spl, although you would not be able to close the cylinder even if you tried. They are not vice versa.
 
The 1mm shorter case isn't a big deal, it's the .010" larger diameter bullet that makes things interesting.

I've got and enjoy shooting a Mak. Knew that the case was 1mm shorter -- 9X18 vs 9X19, but didn't know the slug was bigger around. Wonder how come a 9mm isn't 9mm???
 
Wonder how come a 9mm isn't 9mm???

The same reason a .44 is a .429, and a .38 is a .357.

Cartridges get their name for a variety of reasons. Bullet diameter, oddly enough, is often not the reason.
 
I've got and enjoy shooting a Mak. Knew that the case was 1mm shorter -- 9X18 vs 9X19, but didn't know the slug was bigger around. Wonder how come a 9mm isn't 9mm???
The Mak ammo was designed that way so NATO forces could not use the Commie ammo.
 
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