Scope challenge: .22 at 200 for $250?

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Those are good, too. I'm going to have to see what I can do to "improve" the target over in the "Prove It" thread ...
 
So what do you think?
 

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Not at all; that's why they are there. I did just change the last one to add a data line.
 
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These are the ones I use when I don't have my preferred targets (Champion Redfield for rifles). The last one is a center mass style target that I find handy for handguns if I don't have a B27 or something like it handy, not exactly pertinent to this specific use but nice to have in general.
 

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We don’t have enough info. There are plenty scopes capable of doing this task with the right conditions, but without knowing those conditions then we just don’t know. At 200 a fixed Cheapo 4x would see a shoot-n-see target. With sun in the eyes even the nicest scopes won’t do it. So where are we at between these points?
 
Central TX. Count on it being sunny most of the time; temps in the 90s or above during the summer. Moderate humidity, not like the crazy humidity around Houston, but not arid desert, either. 500-800 feet above sea level. Young man will be shooting mostly at his dad's ranch; outdoors in a cut field with a good tree-covered berm. Read that targets will mostly be in the shade.
 
Well, I guess you could calculate it. If you have a 10x scope, that’s like looking at the target from 20 yards. I’d have a hard time seeing a 1/4” hole at 20 yards in the black.

The easiest answer is Shoot-N-See. There are direction on YouTube for home made versions
 
Thanks for all in the input. Friend settled on a Vortex Crossfire II 6-18x44. I haven't seen the setup yet, and don't know if they can actually see holes at 200, but I know both the son and dad are happy.
 
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The Zeiss Terra 3-9x42 is very disappointing. My $150 Nikon P-223 3x is clearer than this scope. A complete waste of money. I can't see .22 bullet holes in the white at 100.
 
Thanks for all in the input. Friend settled on a Vortex Crossfire II 6-18x44. I haven't seen the setup yet, and don't know if they can actually see holes at 200, but I know both the son and dad are happy.

That would literally have been about the last scope I would have picked. Which means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. I hope everyone enjoys the scope and that your assistance is appreciated by your friends.
 
The Zeiss Terra 3-9x42 is very disappointing. My $150 Nikon P-223 3x is clearer than this scope. A complete waste of money. I can't see .22 bullet holes in the white at 100.
That is pretty surprising. I’ve used the exact same Nikon and was underwhelmed.

Maybe Zeiss is going the route of turning out sub par Products and living off their reputation
 
That is pretty surprising. I’ve used the exact same Nikon and was underwhelmed.

Maybe Zeiss is going the route of turning out sub par Products and living off their reputation

The Terra is made in China, maybe that’s the reason they don’t blow a lot of skirts up.
 
I am 71 and with decent glass and powers at 14x-20x I can see .22 holes fairly well in good light at 200 yards on non mirage days. In black centers it takes more than 20x, sometimes alot more to do the same.
 
I have crappy eyes and compete in precision rimfire matches that include 200 yard targets that are about the size of a beer can or 2-3 inches across. Were shooting at steel swingers.
I bought a SWFA Super Sniper fixed 16X with Mil dot reticle and knobs. The scope has been very good for me. Cost was $250.00 as a DEMO unit from SWFA. They often have sales that equal this on new scopes.
 
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