Scope for a Varmint Rifle. Suggestions?

[Klint Beastwood]

Which is exactly why the test was done outside at 9:00 PM in July where there was no artificial light but still some natural light. Jeez.

lol sorry, then sun is gone and done around these parts at about 2030.

 

[Varminterror]

What would a mil-dot reticle do for me that the Varmint Hunter reticle won't?

If a guy REALLY knows his reticle, and really knows how to range with their reticle, AND really pays attention to their magnification setting, then a Leupold Varmint Hunter's reticle is as versatile and arguably more so than a mil-dot. It requires more attention, so I'm not sure it actually makes life easier for any shooting, but it CAN have a slight advantage if a guy is willing to pay very close attention and do a lot of math. To me, irregularly spaced drop compensating retooled like these are all but worthless when compared to a regularly graduated reticle like a mil-dot, because not many people actually range with their reticle, and not a lot of people actually do "shooter math" in the field, but a lot of people do hold and correct with their reticle, where regular graduations have an advantage. So I recommend mil-dots, and recommend against drop compensators like the varmint hunter from leupold.

I can elaborate if you want the math to support my points above, but I assume not many folks aren't interested in that kind of math, which is why regularly graduated reticles have the edge in my book. I went through that explication recently with @RussellC, the difference in use is all there.

Now cue a Zeiss fan who is convinced the Z600 is a special program which works differently than any other drop compensator and ignorantly flames me for disparaging their beloved system...

 

[RussellC]

If a guy REALLY knows his reticle, and really knows how to range with their reticle, AND really pays attention to their magnification setting, then a Leupold Varmint Hunter's reticle is as versatile and arguably more so than a mil-dot. It requires more attention, so I'm not sure it actually makes life easier for any shooting, but it CAN have a slight advantage if a guy is willing to pay very close attention and do a lot of math. To me, irregularly spaced drop compensating retooled like these are all but worthless when compared to a regularly graduated reticle like a mil-dot, because not many people actually range with their reticle, and not a lot of people actually do "shooter math" in the field, but a lot of people do hold and correct with their reticle, where regular graduations have an advantage. So I recommend mil-dots, and recommend against drop compensators like the varmint hunter from leupold.

I can elaborate if you want the math to support my points above, but I assume not many folks aren't interested in that kind of math, which is why regularly graduated reticles have the edge in my book. I went through that explication recently with @RussellC, the difference in use is all there.

Now cue a Zeiss fan who is convinced the Z600 is a special program which works differently than any other drop compensator and ignorantly flames me for disparaging their beloved system...

And thank you for that info! Much appreciated and still working with it. Will be back for more once new scope is aquired.

Russellc