Thad
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What scope would you guys suggest for this rifle, for target shooting? I am thinking about a Tasco 6-24 or 2.5-10 x 42mm with a illuminated reticle.
Scope for AR-180
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kBob
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Thad,
You do not mention the type of mount you have. I therefore assume you have one of the old style mounts that came with the original AR-180 rifles as an accessory.
The most important issue is to find a scope that has enough distance between the turret block and the power adjustment rings to fit that mount and allow you to obtain proper eye relief for using that scope at what ever power you pick. You might find that one of the 50mm or larger scopes may block or make difficult to use the through the mount iron sight system.
I personally like to keep to low power fiixed power scopes such as 4 powers or to use adjustable power scopes at the lowest setting. This use of lowest power setting or 4 or less power allows faster target aquision and alignment
and give better light transmission in early morning/evening or under lights.
If it fits and allows you to use the irons through the mount the 2.5x10 illuminated sounds like the one I might choose of those two.
More often than such a scope though I have used and old Single Point scope that requires the use of both eyes open ( you do not see through the scope, only its aiming point which your brain super imposes over the image the other eye sees) This is the type of sight used on the Son Tay prosn camp raid during the VN war and tech nology has passed it by, but when I got one it was hot and I gust like them. This allowed me very fast shots out to 100 meters for shots on the old British NRA helment head targets or out to 200 meters for kneeling man targets. I actually zeroed my iron sight s for the recommended 200 meters. I never shot the rifle further than 200 meters but once so I can not say with certanty that the 400 meter aperture was properly aligned to work correctly but felt fairly confident with them being so. One of the one inch tubed redots might be an option if by target shooting you mean tin cans at 100 meters or less.
I used mine this past year in a small club tactical match ( 60+ rounds, range 100 down to 15 yards with six shooting points and seconds added for misses). Still cranks em out.
-Bob Hollingsworth
You do not mention the type of mount you have. I therefore assume you have one of the old style mounts that came with the original AR-180 rifles as an accessory.
The most important issue is to find a scope that has enough distance between the turret block and the power adjustment rings to fit that mount and allow you to obtain proper eye relief for using that scope at what ever power you pick. You might find that one of the 50mm or larger scopes may block or make difficult to use the through the mount iron sight system.
I personally like to keep to low power fiixed power scopes such as 4 powers or to use adjustable power scopes at the lowest setting. This use of lowest power setting or 4 or less power allows faster target aquision and alignment
and give better light transmission in early morning/evening or under lights.
If it fits and allows you to use the irons through the mount the 2.5x10 illuminated sounds like the one I might choose of those two.
More often than such a scope though I have used and old Single Point scope that requires the use of both eyes open ( you do not see through the scope, only its aiming point which your brain super imposes over the image the other eye sees) This is the type of sight used on the Son Tay prosn camp raid during the VN war and tech nology has passed it by, but when I got one it was hot and I gust like them. This allowed me very fast shots out to 100 meters for shots on the old British NRA helment head targets or out to 200 meters for kneeling man targets. I actually zeroed my iron sight s for the recommended 200 meters. I never shot the rifle further than 200 meters but once so I can not say with certanty that the 400 meter aperture was properly aligned to work correctly but felt fairly confident with them being so. One of the one inch tubed redots might be an option if by target shooting you mean tin cans at 100 meters or less.
I used mine this past year in a small club tactical match ( 60+ rounds, range 100 down to 15 yards with six shooting points and seconds added for misses). Still cranks em out.
-Bob Hollingsworth
Thad
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kBob,
It is a brand new AR-180(b). Not in my hands yet. Thanks for your help.
It is a brand new AR-180(b). Not in my hands yet. Thanks for your help.
Bob R
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Thad,
I also have one of the AR180Bs. After much thought I decided to go with a holographic sight for the 180.
A couple of reasons for this. I don't consider the AR180 a target rifle. It is never going to be a subMOA gun, at least I don't think so. Even with a scope the accuracy of the AR180 out past 250-300 yds will probably several inches.
With that in mind, I opted for a holographic sight that midway had on sale a few weeks ago. It is a BSA with 4 different patterns. The one I plan on using is the 1 moa dot with crosshairs.
I am taking it out tomorrow to sight it in and see how it works out to a couple of hundred yards.
If you still want a scope for the AR180, a fixed power around a 6 power should be just fine. A 4 power might even work, I use a fixed 4 power weaver on my 220 Swift and I know it is more accurate further than the AR180 will be.
bob
I also have one of the AR180Bs. After much thought I decided to go with a holographic sight for the 180.
A couple of reasons for this. I don't consider the AR180 a target rifle. It is never going to be a subMOA gun, at least I don't think so. Even with a scope the accuracy of the AR180 out past 250-300 yds will probably several inches.
With that in mind, I opted for a holographic sight that midway had on sale a few weeks ago. It is a BSA with 4 different patterns. The one I plan on using is the 1 moa dot with crosshairs.
I am taking it out tomorrow to sight it in and see how it works out to a couple of hundred yards.
If you still want a scope for the AR180, a fixed power around a 6 power should be just fine. A 4 power might even work, I use a fixed 4 power weaver on my 220 Swift and I know it is more accurate further than the AR180 will be.
bob
Thad
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Thanks for the info.What is the price for the BSA holo?
Thanks for the info.What is the price for the BSA holo?
Bob R
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Thad,
I just noticed you are in Canada, there is a AR180 thread over at www.ar15.com that shows what some people have done to their 180s. One of the nicest is owned in Canada.
Back to the other question, to see the price of a bunch of holosights and scopes go to www.midwayusa.com , just search on the optics tab.
bob
I just noticed you are in Canada, there is a AR180 thread over at www.ar15.com that shows what some people have done to their 180s. One of the nicest is owned in Canada.
Back to the other question, to see the price of a bunch of holosights and scopes go to www.midwayusa.com , just search on the optics tab.
bob
corncob
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I'm with Bob R. The 180 might shoot 2 moa with good ammo on a good day. I put an Eotech on mine with the Stormwerks mount. I like it, but it's too heavy. It throws off the balance of an otherwise very light, quick handling rifle.
I say get use the irons or get something low-power, lightweight, and low to the bore. Maybe the smaller Eotech (I got the AA version) on the shorter base (I got the long version) would be the ticket. That or a 1.5-5 scope.
I say get use the irons or get something low-power, lightweight, and low to the bore. Maybe the smaller Eotech (I got the AA version) on the shorter base (I got the long version) would be the ticket. That or a 1.5-5 scope.
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