Scope for Savage 110 Scout

[mojumbo]

Just purchased my FIRST gun! Hooray! The Savage 110 Scout. Please no "why did you get that", "why didn't you get this" stuff. I spent PLENTY of time looking into price point vs gun type, etc.

Anyway, I now need to fit it with a scope and have NO idea what I'm looking at. I've seen "no larger than 10x44", but that might be overkill for what I need. I will just be target shooting at around 100 yards, no hunting. I would figure 2.5-5x44 or something but still clueless and especially about the brands.

I'm looking to spend no more than $200.

Let the posts fly

 

[GRIZ22]

I have a Burris 2.75×20 mounted on my Savage. I usually shoot groups a bit over an inch with it using just about any NATO spec ball ammo. Last month I shot a 0.6" group using Federal XM80.

These scopes are going for about $250 or less if you look. It would be worth it to up your budget a bit IMO.

 

[troy fairweather]

Burris

 

[BigBL87]

For your price range and use, I'd look at the Vortex Crossfire II 2-7 Scout.

https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Crossfire-2-7x32-Riflescope/dp/B01AWB3JPE

 

[Poper]

Hard to beat the Redfield Revolution (3-9x42)for your price point.
I have 2 of them and a Revenge (4-12x42). Very clear, no complaints. So far, they have stood up to lots of .30-06 and .300 WSM recoil.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1009707090

 

[BigBL87]

If you'd rather go fixed magnification, this Weaver would fit the bill as well.

https://www.natchezss.com/weaver-classic-k-scout-rifle-scope-4x28mm-dual-x-reticle-black-matte.html

 

[stillquietvoice]

I put a Nikon 4-12 x40 on mine. I shoot out to 300 meters and use 9-10x at 100 yds. The thing with the 110/111/112 series of rifles is that the not is long do either long mounting distances between the turrets and objective lenses or extended rings or bases will be needed to mount the scope.

I bought 2 Nikon's a 3-9 and a 4-12 at the same time, the 3-9 wouldn't fit the mount and ring spacing.

A 3-9, 2.5-10 would be good for 100 yds plus.

 

[mojumbo]

Thanks so much everyone for your replies. With regards to fitting, is there something I should be considering to verify that the scope will fit the rail?

 

[BigBL87]

Some people have recommended standard eye relief scopes, I think they may have missed that the setup is a scout scope setup. Make sure whatever you get is a scout/long eye relief scope or else you'll be returning it.

Based on the pictures of the rifle, it looks like it's a one piece picatinny setup so I think you should be pretty safe on it fitting.

 

[stillquietvoice]

The scope that I show measured is the same model that I put on my 111 savage. It fit right. This one is mounted on my rem 700 sa, but the first pic is a weaver extended ring necessary for proper spacing on the short action. On a long action savage m11 this amount of mounting surface worked. I used a Leupold rifleman extend mount on a savage axis 2, also a long action, like the 110 series.

 

[BigBL87]

Unless I'm mistaken this is your rifle, right?

https://www.savagearms.com/content?p=firearms&a=product_summary&s=57026

 

[303 hunter]

Burris

Agreed. Burris scopes are tough as nails and won’t break the bank.

 

[mojumbo]

Unless I'm mistaken this is your rifle, right?

https://www.savagearms.com/content?p=firearms&a=product_summary&s=57026


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yep that's it.

 

[mojumbo]

The scope that I show measured is the same model that I put on my 111 savage. It fit right. This one is mounted on my rem 700 sa, but the first pic is a weaver extended ring necessary for proper spacing on the short action. On a long action savage m11 this amount of mounting surface worked. I used a Leupold rifleman extend mount on a savage axis 2, also a long action, like the 110 series.

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Thanks so much for the detail and your time

 

[BigBL87]

yep that's it.

Cool. With that being the case and having the one piece rail, scope length shouldn't be too much of a worry. Ring height would probably be your biggest consideration.

 

[hps1]

The scope you need for the Scout rail on your rifle (as pictured) will have to be an extended eye relief scope, however, you can mount any standard eye relief scope by removing rear sight, scout rail and installing standard bases. (Action is drilled and tapped for standard bases.)

I wanted a short, handy rifle so switched to standard bases and mounted conventional scope.



And that muzzle break is loud, it had to go; still loud w/that short barrel, but bearable, now.

I like straighter pistol grip so made that alteration, too and it's now good to go.


Regards,
hps

 

[jmr40]

Take the rail off and mount a scope conventionally. I'd suggest a 1-4X or 1-6X of some flavor. On 1X it is actually faster to use than dots, irons, or forward mounted scopes. On 4X or 6X you have enough magnification to shoot 100 yards for each X, or 400-600 yards depending.

You have to remember the purpose of the forward mounted scope was to make loading faster via stripper clips in the military rifles that Cooper first used in developing the scout rifle concept. With detachable box magazines there is no reason to be handicapped with a forward mounted scope.

 

[.38 Special]

Why is a forward mounted scope a handicap?

 

[hps1]

Why is a forward mounted scope a handicap?

One of the biggest disadvantages of forward mounted scope is:

Short eye relief scopes mount further to the rear of the rifle and gives the user a wider field of view. This wider field of view allows the user to see more at a magnified level.
https://rifleopticsworld.com/long-vs-short-eye-relief/

Regards,
hps

 

[troy fairweather]

Can make some guns feel front heavy even with a light scope. If there's no stripper clip guide I see no reason for the scout setup.

 

[LoonWulf]

I used a scout set up on my long nagant for a bit, didnt have any issues with it, and since it was just clamped to the rear dovetail on the barrel it sat at nearly open sight level. I still think that a traditional scope mounting is probably a better option for almost every one.

The one think ive found easier with a forward mounted scope was letting my left eye deal with providing the sight picture and my right simply giving me an aiming point....that probably could have been achieved even better with a non see thru sight like the old armson dot....Anyway, probably better to just use a regular scope

 

[.38 Special]

Well, I won't argue with folks who want to buy a scout rifle and then "unscout" it by removing the rear sight and rail, and using a standard scope.

Just for what it is worth, though, Cooper thought the intermediate eye relief scope was a key component, and not because of stripper clips - he used scout scopes on all his scout rifles, including the ones with box magazines. Cooper simply felt that a low power, intermediate eye relief scope was the fastest of all sighting systems.

He also was annoyed by the field-of-view argument, as he believed the whole issue was obviated by keeping both eyes open. In fact, he wrote extensively about "the annoying custom of getting lost in the scope", which he argued was a result of high powered scopes with short eye relief being used with one eye closed.

Regardless, my assumption is that the OP knew what he was buying and did so for a reason. If he had wanted an Axis Compact, I figure he would have bought one.

 

[.38 Special]

At any rate, regarding the OPs question, I had to Google "scout scope" to see what is currently available, as I last looked into the matter 20+ years ago. It seems to me that the field is relatively full of low-priced scout scopes these days, and it also has been my experience that the major manufacturers are all turning out good quality scopes, even budget ones. If he does decide to stick with a scout (intermediate eye relief) scope, he will have no problem mounting any of them on his rifle.

I personally went with the Leupold FX-II Scout 2.5x. It is out of the OP's budget, as it was out of mine way back then, but I do not regret the expense. It is one of those rare things that I expect to outlast me.

 

[hps1]

Cooper simply felt that a low power, intermediate eye relief scope was the fastest of all sighting systems. He also was annoyed by the field-of-view argument, as he believed the whole issue was obviated by keeping both eyes open.

Regardless, my assumption is that the OP knew what he was buying and did so for a reason. If he had wanted an Axis Compact, I figure he would have bought one.

At any rate, regarding the OPs question, I had to Google "scout scope" to see what is currently available, as I last looked into the matter 20+ years ago. It seems to me that the field is relatively full of low-priced scout scopes these days, and it also has been my experience that the major manufacturers are all turning out good quality scopes, even budget ones. If he does decide to stick with a scout (intermediate eye relief) scope, he will have no problem mounting any of them on his rifle.

I personally went with the Leupold FX-II Scout 2.5x. It is out of the OP's budget, as it was out of mine way back then, but I do not regret the expense. It is one of those rare things that I expect to outlast me.

Everyone's use/needs in a rifle is different, and the scout works better for some than it does others. I shoot both eyes open with scope or iron sights, so the extended relief is of no practical advantage to me.

The scout had two features I wanted that are not available on the Axis; Adjustable cheek piece and the Accutrigger, making it worth the added cost to me. Thankfully there are many options available for each of us to choose the one which fits our own peculiar use/needs.

Regards,
hps

 

[.38 Special]

Everyone's use/needs in a rifle is different, and the scout works better for some than it does others. I shoot both eyes open with scope or iron sights, so the extended relief is of no practical advantage to me.

The scout had two features I wanted that are not available on the Axis; Adjustable cheek piece and the Accutrigger, making it worth the added cost to me. Thankfully there are many options available for each of us to choose the one which fits our own peculiar use/needs.

Regards,
hps

Fair enough, and I won't knock anyone's choice of rifles. I just thought it odd that folks were telling the OP not to use a scout scope on his scout rifle.