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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by PITBULL, Feb 6, 2006.

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  1. PITBULL

    PITBULL Member

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    I got a marlin model 60. and put a tasco 3x9x40 with see tru rings on it. and need to know how many yard's to sight it in at?
     
  2. Highland Ranger

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    Depends on what you use it for . . .
     
  3. Guyon

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    Sight it in to hit dead on at 300. You'll need a big shim.
     
  4. Guyon

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    I assumed the initial post was a joke.

    If not, that's a heckuva lot of magnification for a little bit of gun. :D
     
  5. LHB1

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    Pitbull,
    First, dump the see thru rings and mount your scope using std rings. The see thru rings cause you to lift your head higher than necessary to see thru the scope. They increase difficulty of using scope and if you are going to use the scope, you won't be needing the iron sights. Use one or the other but don't try to mix them, IMHO.
    After that, you might try sighting the .22 LR at 50 yds depending on intended use. You will probably have a little parallax because most 3x9 scopes of that size are intended for high power rifles and parallax is usually set for about 150 yds. As long as you put your head in the same place on rifle stock and look thru center of scope, parallax will NOT have any effect. (See FAQ section on Leupold website for more info on parallax.)

    Good shooting and be safe.
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  6. mustanger98

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    I won't comment on the rings/bases, but I like using 3-9X40 on pretty much anything as it's easier to see through than those dinky little "rimfire" scopes. I've had good results sighted in at 50yds and 100yds on a square range. However, in real life, I think it won't do anything I wouldn't do with with the stock irons.

    I assumed this was a joke, but knowing what I know about .22LR, it's not totally out of the question. The real problem is the mid-range trajectory.:D
     
  7. g56

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    22 rimfires are normally sighted in at 50 yards.
     
  8. PITBULL

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    thanks for the help. i sighted it in at 50 yards and can hit a 20 gauge shotgun case at 50 yards. and can knock over a 2 litter botle filled with water at a 100 yards is that good?
     
  9. mustanger98

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    Ummm... sight-in distance may or may not be mission specific. Squirrel hunting, you only need to hit close in... maybe 25'. Smallbore rifle sillouette, you have to know the settings for 44m, and three more distances (usually metric) out to 100m. If the rifle were dedicated BR 50-50 (benchrest, 50rds for score at 50yds), then yeah, 50yd sight-in.

    I'd say that's doing pretty good. Offhand or across the bench?

    BTW, the scope don't help the size of your groups. The scope just gives you a better look at your target. Control of breathing, sight alignment, and trigger control on a good rifle do more for you group size.
     
  10. PITBULL

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    across a table with a pillow under the gun. don't i need to hold my breath when i shoot? im new to rifle shooting.
     
  11. R.O.F

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    +1 on LBH's post. Standard rings are adequate when shooting rimfires. If it were an issue, then you might as well not use a scope. Iron Sights are great, but you don't need em as back-up when shooting .22s. IMHO.

    +100 on Mustangers post.
    Breathing control is the most important part of shooting. I kinda threw that info at a couple deer hunters I know and they came back thanking me for it. Breath in...hold it...find your sight....shoot...release. It works wonders, just don't tell a forum or anything, everyone will be an expert then.

    Get yourself whatever fits your needs and something that you like, a lot of people will tell you to spend upwards of $1000 on any given scope, plus or minus on a rimfire scope, (I've seen it!!!). .22s oughtta be fun, keep 'em that way.
     
  12. PITBULL

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    thanks for the help on breathing. but im going to keep the see thru ring's.
     
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    I've always sighted my guns in at 25 yards and held a little high at 50. All I ever cared about shooting .22s for was squirrel hunting and plinking.

    That see through mount is going to do weird stuff to your tragectory, very high sight.
     
  14. foghornl

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    I put a Tasco 3-7x21 (or whatever the size of those dinky rimfire scopes was in 1968 or so) on my Nylon66 I had as a teen, and found it was no real improvement over the irons. (I had lost the front sight of my Nylon 66, and a replacement sight & the 2 screws from Remmy was more than the scope/tip-off mount)

    Later, when I had a few more bucks, I swapped to a fixed power 4x30 or x32, don't remember, [another Tasco] but not a so-called 'rimfire' scope. WOW! HUGE difference.

    BTW, I also like 'Big Glass' on my rifles. My Mossberg ATR-100 in .30-06 wears a Simmons 3-9x50. That objective lens is about 1/4" above the barrel, sitting in the tallest 'high-rise' rings I could find.

    If you can consistantly hit a 20-ga hull @50Yards, that's good shootin' for a basic .22 rimfire rifle.
     
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    If the 3-9x40 floats your boat, then power to ya'. A decent 4x fixed is about the biggest scope I'd put on a .22 though.

    I don't think there's anything wrong with a compact rimfire scope, as long as the glass is good. Generally, a 100 yard shot with a .22 is a pretty long shot.

    I agree with others here, however, that you'd be better served with some standard rings.

    foghornl, what do you see as the advantage of the 50mm? I've tried to explain to a friend that a 3-9X40 set at 4x or 5x already transmits more light than the human eye can take in. It's really all about glass quality and coatings once you reach a certain point of exit pupil.

    If you like the big 50mm scopes, you seen these yet? http://www.leupold.com/products/vx-l/main.html
     
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    the only reason I like see through rings is because I shoot at the range and like to switch between the two without having to take the scope off all the time to use the iron.

    For just hunting though I would likly ditch the see throughs in favor of standard rings.
     
  17. PITBULL

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    when i shoot my marlin model 60 the scope mount's slide back and they are on good. so how could i fix this?
     
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    First, make sure you have the proper mounts.

    If so, try snugging down your screws with just a dab of purple (gun) loctite on the threads.
     
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    we aren't talking high recoil here. make sure it is the right mounts and that you have them set in the grooves properly
     
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    Yeah the screw's on the mount's are not staying tight.

    what does that purple gun loctite stuff do?
    and where can i get it?
    and can i get the mount's off if i use the purple stuff?
     
  21. LHB1

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    No offense but what kind of mounts are you using? Some of the $4.95 cheapie mounts are real junk and may not hold a scope that heavy without stripping threads. You may need a better quality mount. Again, IMO, toss the see thru's and go with std mounts. Good luck.

    Good shooting and be safe.
    LB
     
  22. Lupinus

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    Lock tight you can get most anyhere. Bascly what it does is keep the screws from vibrating loose. And yes you can get them off just will be harder.
     
  23. PITBULL

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    the mount's are weaver 1 in see-thru scope mount's for 3/8" grooved receivers
     
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    Weaver mounts are generally serviceable and I would have expected them to be sturdy enough to hold the scope. You might try degreasing the grooves in receiver and clamp areas on mounts to help eliminate slippage. Another thought: are you built like the Calif governor and perhaps over tightened/stripped the screws? Using Loctite or a replacement mount are options. Good luck.

    Good shooting and be safe.
    LB
     
  25. PITBULL

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    thanks can i get loc tite 222 at walmart
     
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