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SCOTUS grants Illinois AG Madigan her extention on appeal of gun case

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by usmarine0352_2005, May 4, 2013.

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  1. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Member

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    I guess granting this extention is extremely rare, only 1 out of 125 are granted.



    1.) Does this mean that SCOTUS wants to rule on this case if appealed to them?



    2.) Is this a good case for us to take to SCOTUS?





    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/..._n_3211310.html?1367618716&utm_hp_ref=chicago



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  2. usmarine0352_2005

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    Apparently SCJ Elena Kagan granted Madigan's request.



    I wonder if that means anything?




    It also said:


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  3. TheSaint

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    Good questions. If they do take the case, I wonder if the "home rule" exceptions and "may issue" versus "shall issue" will come up. The SCOTUS could also be giving the legislature more time to craft a bill, making the court case not actually come on to the official docket. It seems like more "lets wait and see" to me. In the meantime, Chicago crooksters are doing their best to make sure law abiding citizens are disarmed, while a few folks from downstate are standing up against their madness. I wish my own Tammy Duckwork actually upheld her oath in office. Unfortunately despite serving in the military, she's pro-gun-control.
     
  4. rugerman07

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    This doesn't make any sense to me at all. The SCOTUS ruling does not affect the June,9th deadline date, we will have a concealed carry law of some sort by that date. Yet it can quickly be taken away by June,24th if Lisa Madigan decides to appeal the ruling and SCOTUS agrees to hear her appeal?
     
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    I talked to my state representative the other day and, not surprisingly, the Chicago Democrats are the reason this is happening. He told me that downstate is pretty much in agreement that Illinois IS going to be a "shall issue" state. The Chicago Democrats have more or less accepted that they don't have the juice to pull their usual stall maneuver this time so they're messing with this appeal. The Chicago Democrats want Chicago and Cook Co. to be "may issue". The consensus among downstaters is to let them go ahead and try that, but they (the ChiDems) fully expect that the courts will throw that out, probably on 14th Amendment issues.
    The Chicago Democrats appear to really be in a fix this time. They know that it's going to happen but they're trying not to watch.

    I hate Illinois Nazis
     
  6. Dframe

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    Chicago, as usual, is trying to exempt itself from state law.
    They've been operating as their own little fiefdom for decades and don't want to have to obey a state law that grants concealed carry. For what it's worth the patrolmen in chicago generally support CCW and the upper command us bitterly opposed
     
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    As a long time former citizen of Cook County, I am so glad I don't live in that stinking cesspool anymore. :neener:
     
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    Chicago is a den of thugs and has been for meany years most of the D P has ended up in the pin.
     
  9. usmarine0352_2005

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    I wonder if Madigan is waiting for the last minute to appeal to SCOTUS thus allowing the court to stay the carry law taking affect.
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  10. JTHunter

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    Certain other states (NY, NJ, CA, etc.) may help put a stop to this. They don't want their restrictive ways to get any more scrutiny and letting our case go to the SCOTUS just might force them to open up their doors even more.

    Time will tell - - -.


    42 days and counting.
     
  11. JohnsXDM

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    Actually its just 35 more days, but who's counting.
     
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    Justice delayed is justice denied.
     
  13. usmarine0352_2005

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    I wonder if Madigan is waiting to see what the legislature comes up with, may-issue, shall-issue, or Constitutional carry and depending on that will wait until the last minute to appeal.



    If its shall issue or Constitutional carry she could appeal at the last minute and that would stop allowing shall issue/Constitutional carry.
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  14. JTHunter

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    JohnsXDM said:
    You're right. I miscounted by a week.

    And yes, I'm counting.

    Down to
    31 days.
    :evil: :D
     
  15. -Jake-

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    This solidifies my decision on living in NW Indiana. I almost moved to IL, glad I didn't! :D
     
  16. Trent

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    Got more interesting. Muñoz put an amendment to a shell bill up today that would make it a felony to possess large capacity magazines (class 2 felony, 3-7 years, doubled for second or subsequent offense).

    No grandfathering provisions.

    Shortly after the NRA-ILA and ISRA alerts went out, I saw a thread on illinoiscarry stating Muñoz had receives 'serious threats'.

    Consensus is generally that it was faked to get media attention, but apparently ISP is investigating.

    People here have been pushed too hard for too long, no arguing that, but cool heads will be needed to win the day.
     
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    The next important Supreme court case will be whether may issue is constitutional, but they have not granted Cert. on that yet.
    In fact, they refused to hear Kachalsky, making me think that the pro 2A Justices do not have a fifth vote
     
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    Methinks the next Supreme Court decision should be whether "Shell Bills" and "Amendatory Veto" are constitutional. You Illini really have got it rough, up there with that piece of work you call a state government :(

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    I love that movie.

    I'm pulling for you Illinois. If you guys, against all odds, can turn your state around there's hope we can do the same here in NJ.
     
  20. JTHunter

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    JD said:
    No kidding!!
     
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    Lisa Madigan (the A.G.) has requested and received from Justice Kagan an extension until June 24,2013, to file an appeal to Judge Posner's 12/11/12 decision.
    Strangely enough, Kagan left the june 9th deadline intact! This begs the question of what value will an appeal be after the state is barred from enforcing the "unlawful use" statutes anyway?
    Of possible greater concern to high-roller antis (Bloomey, Emmanuel, etc.) would be what a SCOTUS appeal could do to their restrictive laws.
    A SCOTUS ruling againt Madigan/Illinois could spell the end to their "may-issue" restrictions.

    Madigan could end up being the most hated and despised person in the Democratic party!
     
  22. JohnsXDM

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    Lisa would have to petition the CA7th first for a stay of the June 9th date. If they refuse (which they would do ) then she can go to Kagan and ask for a stay.
     
  23. usmarine0352_2005

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    It said if she appeals to SCOTUS it will stay the June 9th date and apparently she wouldn't have to go to the 7th circuit first.
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