Discussion in 'Long Gun Accessories and Optics' started by Space Ghost, Oct 14, 2019.
Anyone else notice this with variable power scout scopes?
Poor man's VCOG:
I have moved most of my scout rifles to the Leupold VX•R 1.5-5x33mm Scout. Mainly because it's very bright center dot can be used like a red dot. It is still lightweight and has the eye-relief needed for a scout scope. I especially like the automatic on/off of the illuminated reticle.
Leupold VX•R 1.5-5x33mm Scout:
Yup. We don’t notice it as much when using standard rifle scopes, because the same proportionate change in eye relief is less noticeable on 4” as it is on 12”, but it’s there. Even worse on 22” eye relief pistol scopes. I place my scopes with the magnification maxed out while holding the rifle standing, such my head is as far back as it ever could be, and my eye relief is as short as it ever could be. Zooming out and/or going prone then works in my favor.
Personally, I gave up on the scout scope concept a long time ago, but I DO expect to want 7x on my scout rifles, or more, as shooting game at 300-400 yards is realistic in my world, and if my life depends upon my rifle, I want more than 2-7x, whether that’s identifying and engaging threats out 500 yards, or putting meat in my belly at 300-400. I know I can deliver fast shots at short range with a receiver mounted optic, even in double digit magnifications, but I also know the real world limitations of shooting game beyond 200 yards with a LPVO.
I'm a scout rifle concept fan, and recently got that same Vortex you mentioned, Space Ghost. I'll be stretching out her legs when it cools off a bit here and see how she does out to 300yds on paper.
If you move the scope back so you have proper eye relief at 7x can you still get a good sight picture at low power? I’ve never used a scout scope, but the goal is to never need to reposition your head and still be able to achieve a good sight picture. Not sure how the focal point changes in that scope as you dial up and down in magnification
As a general rule I’ve found the better quality a scope is the more constant the eye relief is through the magnification range.
I'm kinda stuck not being able to move it much unless I get a different mount. As it sits, it just has a piece of picatinny rail screwed to the 100+ year old original rear sight mount. My only other option would be to have it removed, then get one of those XS Clifton Scout scope mounts. I may do that in the future, but I don't need the higher magnification bad enough to worry about it at the moment.
If I want, I can also use 3x and everything in between. The big thing is making sure your scope is focused first.
So you won't be shooting past 300 yrds, might acog fit the bill, since you won't be shooting "coast to coast"?
Nope. An ACOG mounts in the conventional scope area. That wouldn't leave the action open to easily top it off. Also, 4 power is a bit high for quick, close engagements with both eyes open..
Two contrary guys. Scout scope concept doesn’t work for me either.
..... That sums up my feelings & experience with it. Except I believe he means 2.5x which is what mine is. Had one on a K98 Mauser in 8x57 for 10 years and enjoyed it a lot. Was a new experience using a scope with both eyes open, although I hear some folks have problems with that. The 2.5x power was nice, as lower powers also allow a wider field of view and yet was adequate for the shooting I did with it. Made a great woods rifle with a wide field of view and yet I could leave both eyes open. Being a fixed power is why there were no eye relief issues, as the power never changed. That previously posted Leupold 1.5-5x Scout scope looks interesting but I have no experience with a variable scout scope. Never had complaints about the 2.5x scout but I eventually removed it and the S & K no gunsmithing mount that it was in because I didn't use the rifle as much as I once did, and wanted to return it to original before I started getting called "Bubba". Too bad I didn't get good digital pix of it before I took it off but I have one here on the computer that's a digital pic of an old snapshot of it up in the winter woods.
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