sd ammo change/big deal?

[Shawn Dodson]

In the three full magazine test it doesn't matter the number of cartridges fired. Yes, it will require more ammo to test a Glock than a 1911 - but the end result is the same - three full magazines of ammo were fired without a failure. At this point the ammo isn't suddenly going to start failing to feed and function. Ammo that doesn't reliably feed and function in the pistol will not pass the test.

9mmepiphany hit the nail on the head - it's the absolute minimum level of testing.

 

[SabbathWolf]

MAH says Law Enforcement Sales Only for the Winchester Ranger ammo.

I'm not LEO and have over a 1k of both 9mm and 45acp Ranger right in front of me....lol
Bought it on line with no problems at all.
What or who is MAH?

 

[SabbathWolf]

If you have something you know runs IMO it's not worth cost of the test ammo to switch when you are comparing modern reputable brands. Dudes often seem on the lookout for the next best wonder bullet, and companies are happily boastful in their marketing, but when comparing reputable big name modern lines, they are all pretty much the same.

No offense, but that's just silly in my opinion.

It may well be true that most modern "bullets" will perform just fine for self-defense depending on shot placement....
But, that in no way means all modern "cartridges" as a whole will function flawlessly in the same gun.
That's 2 VERY different things.

If I find some ammo in which the "bullet" is relatively the same thing and just as good as another...but it costs less as an example....
I'll still test that ammo for proper "function" in my gun before I just go arbitrarily trusting my very life to it.

 

[Warp]

MAH says Law Enforcement Sales Only for the Winchester Ranger ammo.

That is Winchester's policy...

In the three full magazine test it doesn't matter the number of cartridges fired. Yes, it will require more ammo to test a Glock than a 1911 - but the end result is the same - three full magazines of ammo were fired without a failure. At this point the ammo isn't suddenly going to start failing to feed and function. Ammo that doesn't reliably feed and function in the pistol will not pass the test.

Is 24 rounds enough, in your opinion?

I'm not LEO and have over a 1k of both 9mm and 45acp Ranger right in front of me....lol
Bought it on line with no problems at all.
What or who is MAH?

I think I already posted a picture of some of my ammo. Note the Ranger. I am not LEO either. And I like MAH. (www.mahsupplies.net, referenced earlier in this thread)

Edit: Guess that was a different thread. Well, here is my shelf of semi auto JHP, note the Ranger. And I like MAH...

 

[SabbathWolf]

That is Winchester's policy...




Is 24 rounds enough, in your opinion?



I think I already posted a picture of some of my ammo. Note the Ranger. I am not LEO either. And I like MAH. (www.mahsupplies.net, referenced earlier in this thread)

Edit: Guess that was a different thread. Well, here is my shelf of semi auto JHP, note the Ranger. And I like MAH...

Now that's funny....lol
You have the exact same ammo I do.

 

[Warp]

I do. My local PD uses the 147gr T-series, has for years...good results. Some of the boxes you can't read are 127 +P+ as well as 147gr bonded.

 

[SabbathWolf]

I do. My local PD uses the 147gr T-series, has for years...good results. Some of the boxes you can't read are 127 +P+ as well as 147gr bonded.

I use the 147gr in my 9mm carbine. Shoots great!

 

[coalman]

If you have something you know runs IMO it's not worth cost of the test ammo to switch when you are comparing modern reputable brands. Dudes often seem on the lookout for the next best wonder bullet, and companies are happily boastful in their marketing, but when comparing reputable big name modern lines, they are all pretty much the same.

No offense, but that's just silly in my opinion. It may well be true that most modern "bullets" will perform just fine for self-defense depending on shot placement.... But, that in no way means all modern "cartridges" as a whole will function flawlessly in the same gun. That's 2 VERY different things. If I find some ammo in which the "bullet" is relatively the same thing and just as good as another...but it costs less as an example....
I'll still test that ammo for proper "function" in my gun before I just go arbitrarily trusting my very life to it.

Hmm. Man, we are way miscommunicating somehow. How about this saying it this way: If you have a reputable, big name modern defensive carry load that you've tested and know runs 100% in your gun(s) it's not worth the money to waste on testing a different reputable, big name modern defensive load to replace it just because you, or company marketing, think it will be more effective. There, we clear now?

 

[SabbathWolf]

Hmm. Man, we are way miscommunicating somehow. How about this saying it this way: If you have a reputable, big name modern defensive carry load that you've tested and know runs 100% in your gun(s) it's not worth the money to waste on testing a different reputable, big name modern defensive load to replace it just because you, or company marketing, think it will be more effective. There, we clear now?

Ah!
Now I see what you mean.
Sure. I agree with that.
Changing ammo just to change ammo because of some pipe dream promise of a supernatural magical new bullet in magazine ads that is supossed to be 1200000000 times better than anything else on the market is most likely just another scam.

In that case, then sure, just stick with what you already know works.
Agreed.

 

[Warp]

inb4 extreme shock

 

[Water-Man]

SabbathWolf,

It doesn't matter how much Winchester Ranger ammo you have. You're not buying it at MAH.

I didn't say you couldn't buy it anywhere else.

W-M

 

[Warp]

It doesn't matter how much Winchester Ranger ammo you have. You're not buying it at MAH.

I am. And I'm not in LE and I have no special connections. I'm sure others are as well.

You were supposed to read between the lines.

Edit: And please don't quote this message. I will delete it later...

 

[SabbathWolf]

SabbathWolf,

It doesn't matter how much Winchester Ranger ammo you have. You're not buying it at MAH.

I didn't say you couldn't buy it anywhere else.

W-M

Lol.....see post #37