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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by brfishman, Mar 2, 2010.

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  1. brfishman

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    I am a new member this site. I do not currently own a firearm but am planning on purchasing one soon.

    My current interest is in 9mm handguns. What would be the best starter gun to purchase? Which would be the easiest to learn to fire and clean? From your point of view, which is the best made, considering realiability, strength of manufacture, ease of operation, safest to operate?

    Any ideas and suggestions will be appreciated.
     
  2. Zerodefect

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    Glock 19 and 26.

    Both will do what you listed, but you'll need a good holster for "safest to operate" and some trigger dicipline.
     
  3. 96projectz24

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    I second the Glock 19 and 26, or the 27 with a 9mm conversion - multiple ammo options.
     
  4. lilidiot

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    I would have to agree. The Glock 19 or 26. The Glock is used by more military and police departments that any other service pistol.

    When buying guns you would be well served to buy the one that is being copied. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

    .380 the best is Walthers

    9 mm the best is Glock/Beretta

    .45 the best is Colt/Remington

    That's my opinion on the matter for what it's worth.

    Some of the things in this world to steer clear of are Cheap Guns and Cheap Women. Either one can get you killed real quick!

    The rest are just cheap imitations and clone copies of the best.
     
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  5. atlanticfire

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    If your looking in the 9mm range I would look at the Browning HP
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  6. jeepguy

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    beretta 92 fs good accuracy & easy to clean
     
  7. Enachos

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    Glock 19 or Glock 26 (for concealment)! They're tough, reliable, reasonably priced, easy to operate and clean... overall a great gun! You can't go wrong with one. If you're like some of the crowd and you don't like the grip, I suggest you check out Springfields's XD line up since they also have an added grip safety. But a glock is safe enough if you just maintain proper trigger discipline. Which is a must for every gun.
     
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    Beretta 92 or Glock 19. You'll be shooting the wings off flies with the Beretta at 10 yards very soon. Great, accurate gun. Better trigger than the Glock.
     
  9. paradox998

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    CZ's are great all steel guns. Consider the CZ Rami for a smaller high quality 9mm. You need to decide how important concealed carry is to you. Most 9mm are larger, but have more punch. If you want a very good smaller 9mm, consider a CZ82. They are surplus, typically lightly used by the Czech police. Caliber is 9mm marakov - a little smaller cartridge than a 9mm luger, but with more power than a 380acp. 9mm marakov is eaily available, and fairly cheap. Also CZ82 are about $210!
     
  10. Nick5182

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    I'd have to agree with a Beretta 92 or Glock. I own both and they're both accurate, reliable, and easy field strip and maintain as well as readily available and not extremely pricey.
     
  11. NG VI

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    I am going to throw something completely different out there, and then explain why it is the best choice for you (as far as I know).

    The FNP-9, or if you can even find one, anf FNP-9M.

    They are a traditional DA/SA with decocker, I believe the new ones have safety built into what was once a decocker only, that will allow you to carry it either cocked and locked, double action with the safety on, or double action with the safety off, when you are ready to and if you want to go that route.

    For just general recreational shooting at the range, it allows you to sample every type of trigger setup available except double-action only, they have very nice, smooth, shorter than your average bear trigger pulls, nice resets, did I mention smooth yet?

    And they are super reliable, do not have the bulk or odd shapes some pistols are guilty of sporting, looking at you Beretta, Sig, XD, USP... They are trim for a double stack service pistol, and they have superb sights, the best I have ever used on a handgun. The white on them is the brightest I have ever seen, they are super-low profile, and they just seem to magically work.

    The grips are not overly long, they are about perfect, not girthy, probably because of the polymer frame with steel magazines, they come with three magazines, and the older ones have two changeable backstraps, the new ones have four. The locking mechanism for the backstraps is very simple, a nice sturdy groove and railish thing they slide onto, tightly, that may be all they need to stay on, but they lock in place with a simple screw. Yep, nothing technologically advanced, nothing that can possibly fail without you doing something drastically stupid to it.

    And the magazine release can be switched from side to side if you want to.

    Did I mention the smooth trigger pull and excellent sights?
     
  12. NG VI

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    Oh and I love CZs, I have a PCR that is wonderful, and a USP that I really love too, and a Glock 27 I would never willingly part with (but shame on whoever reccomended that one, it is a pretty sharp recoiler for a first gun!), CZ gives you the option of the awesome Kadet Kit, get tons of practice in with a super reliable and accurate .22 top end that uses the same grip and trigger as your 9mm.
     
  13. frankiestoys

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    A Ruger p-95 is a good start i own one and love it , if you want something a little nicer
    check out the Beretta px4 or a CZ but they are about $200 more.
     
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    I will suggest Springfield Armory XD9. I have small hands and this weapon fits my hand much better than the glock and the XD9 has an added grip safety. If you are a newbie to handling a loaded weapon regularly, this may be an added safety feature to consider. If you are new to handguns period... and you want a reliable self-defense weapon... I would suggest you start with a revolver. No magazines, no slide, etc. etc., just squeeze and shoot. I carry an automatic most of the time, but my first purchase was a revolver and I am happy that I went that route. The revolver is still the main house gun and the misses is confident to use it if she is home alone.
     
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    What is your purpose for owning a gun? Home defense, concealed carry, informal target/range shooting or all of the above?

    A good all around 9MM is a CZ-75D PCR or P-01. They will do all three VERY well.
     
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    Glock 19, hands down. You won't find a better all-around 9mm pistol, especially as a first pistol
     
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    2 of the best and easiest.. bar none

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    When you go to any gun store, and you want ease of dissassembly, inspection, cleaning, and reassembly, along with, great DA/SA triggers out of the box, not to mention, accuracy, I'd strongly suggest Sig P229 9mm or Beretta Px4 9mm.

    Both very soft recoil shooters, both SO easy to take care of, as mentioned above.

    IF you can't find a range that rents guns, "then" it should go to the gun that feels the best, most natural, in your grip/hand, and balanced, picking up gun, point to aim, that feels most like it is part of your hand/arm and balance, whatever make or model that, part, turns out to be..

    Price will vary:

    Sigs: 229 or slightly bigger model 226 come with real night sights, mostly, great CS dept if warranty needed or up the road, replacement parts, extras, etc. 800 - 900 bucks. (decocker-only) no safety, but that will, should, be between your ears (being trained "right")

    Beretta Px4 9mm: Usually without night sights, but there are some out there with them from the factory.. 500 - 650 bucks. Comes in F model, decocker and safety, in one, or G model, decocker only.

    Either model mentioned will "last a lifetime" and just get better and better over time and rounds fired. But both are the_simplest, easiest, guns to take care of, bar none, out there, speaking from experience, and both are "very forgiving" of one handed shots or weak handed shots, as, they both keep on firing and are not effected by limp-wristing FTVMP.

    Sig P229R and 229n/r (non-railed)

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    Beretta Px4

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    Just remember, prices are nothing short of a "lifetime investment".. so go with what you can afford, given the choice, based on "the_best, most natural, balanced, feel" of, whichever, said gun "you" choose.

    Luck,


    Ls

    Ps.. welcome to the_boards :)
     
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  19. Mad Magyar

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    Get yourself a Daewoo, and enroll in a CC class where you'll learn a lot about gun safety, gun laws, maintenance of pistol, and firing on the range...Best $$$ you'll ever spend whether you carry or not...:)
     
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    I agree that a Glock 19 is the way to go to start. It is easy to disassemble; and, it even includes cleaning tools.
     
  21. MandH2010

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    very new and needs lots of help

    i am very new to blogging and so i don't know if i can/need to start a new thread. i have a question concerning the SW9VE which tye of ammo would work for this gun, do alot of damage, and not pierce right through an attacker? i want this gun for CCW. close range mostly. any suggestions?
    is this gun muzzle brake worthy/capable?

    i also have a question concerning th 325 PDit looks hefty and nice but i am worried that it is too powerful. is there a slightly less powerful version of this gun? i hear alot of bad things about the grip, is there a good recoil obsorption grip replacement for this without putting a grip cover on it? can i put a muzzle brake on it.

    what type of ammo is best if i want to put a big hole in someone and do alot of damage but don't want to damage the walls behind them?

    is there such a thing as a high speed draw grip?
     
  22. NG VI

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    Why the hell would you want to put a muzzle brake on a 4" 9mm?

    Oh damn sorry buddy forgot the new part...

    Not really an easy thing to do, I don't know of anyone making a threaded barrel for the 9VE or 40VE, so you would end up paying well over the cost of the gun to get the barrel alone, then another $50-100 probably for a brake, and get almost nothing out of it, may make the pistol a bit louder, maybe a lot louder, but 9mm doesn't really have much gas to work a brake (compensator in pistol speak, brake for rifles, guns, and artillery), so you wouldn't notice a huge difference in recoil without using some labor-intensive loads developed specifically to maximize the compensator.

    And you would turn your defense pistol (?offense? kind of an oddly worded post) into a really crappy competition pistol, bigger than it needs to be, reliant on specific ammunitions, no reason to do it, not on a 9mm Sigma.

    High speed draw grip? That's a technique, not a piece of equipment, try shooting in some action pistol competitions sometime, but show up and just observe one of them first, before competing, and try to take a beginners pistol class to make sure you're good to go safety wise, and help you learn good shooting habits.
     
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    Glock 17 or 19
     
  24. dfjaws

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    Let's not forget about HK. :D


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    Every one of us that carries a gun will tell you to carry the gun we carry. The vast opinions should give you a place to start, but you must investigate and decide for yourself. Most of the weapons suggested will serve most people. Only you can decide what will serve you.
     
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