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Second most accurate military handgun ?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by mm1ut1, Aug 12, 2009.

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  1. mm1ut1

    mm1ut1 Member

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    Since the SIG P210 has pretty much locked up first place, what mass produced, military issued handgun comes in second place for accuracey? I'm not talking about modified, just off the shelf guns. CZ 75?
     
  2. Bass Killer

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    Sig 226? or Beretta M9?
     
  3. Jim Watson

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    The Luger.

    For all the hype (and real quality) of the P-210, the Swiss would not accept a new sidearm until they were offered one as accurate as their beloved Lugers.
     
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    Beretta 92
     
  5. CWL

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    Jim Watson beat me to it!

    I was going to put Artillery Luger because it had the 8" barrel and adjustable sights + detachable stock.
     
  6. Shear_stress

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    My money would be on the S&W Model 15s issued to the USAF.
     
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    You're obviously talking current issue.

    From shooting some medium aged S&W revolvers I'd have to say that the new stuff would have to go some to achieve the groupings that would be possible with the old S&W Victory revolvers.

    Either way though, it's more about how the gun interfaces with the shooter and the shooter's skills. ANY of the options currently available or historically available from the past 100 years will easily outshoot all but the very best top drawer shooters.

    Perhaps the question should have been which gun works best in the hands of a medium level shooter? Hmm.... I'll bet the old Victory class revovlers would still be up there.
     
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    As stupid as it might sound, my czech CZ-82 runs neck and neck with my sig P220. I noticed that I actually get bored shooting. With my other guns that have a 7 round magazine, I can shoot a mag and then go look at the target. But with 12 rounds in the CZ-82, all I get is one big a$$ hole in the paper. Granted, when I practice with handguns, it's to practice self defense. Which mean the furthest shots are 20-30 feet away. But damn if that CZ-82 isn't accurate as all hell. Must be that smooth polygonal barrel.
     
  9. Quentin

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    Well when you talk accuracy you can't ignore a good 1911.
     
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    Colt 45?
     
  11. lechiffre

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    luger the gun the 210 replaced

    sig 220 the replacement for the 210

    mexico bought 3000 hk p7m13s for their military.
     
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    Cz-75b
     
  13. bigfatdave

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    That's what I came in to say.
    Mechanical accuracy has reached the point that you'd have to have quite a lemon in your hands to be outshooting the gun. Ergonomics is what makes the difference now, and that is so personal that comparing various issued pistols on the basis of single-shot precision is pretty much futile. Now, the ease of follow-up shots might make a difference in combat or competition, but even that will be shooter-specific.
    It isn't like there is a handgun in the world that a novice could pick up and shoot perfectly every shot ... if there was, we'd all be carrying it along with every military on the planet.

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    1911GI Fan, you've asked the same question four times in four threads. If you're that uncomfortable or unfamiliar with the internal workings of your 1911, can you really call yourself a "fan"?
     
  14. Shear_stress

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    The M15s were issued starting in the 1960s. They are not current issue.
     
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    HK P8 or P10........german current issue HK USP 9mm
     
  16. Wishoot

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    I'll vote for a CZ 75B because it's what I own right now and I shoot it very well.

    With all due respect, this is kind of a strange question that will garner about a million different opinions.
     
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    CZ-75B

    I've got 2. A 9mm and the other in .40S&W.

    Both are more accurate than my Sigs - a P220 and a P232. Or maybe the ergonomics on the CZ are just better for me than the ergonomics on my Sigs. Who knows.

    In any event I shoot the CZ way better than any of my other pistols except a S&W 1911 target and a Kimber Ultra Tac II.
     
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    Are there substantial differences between the USP series pistols available in Germany versus those here in the US?
     
  19. Landpimp

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    backwards saftey
     
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    I never considered the Luger to be all that great in the accuracy depertment.

    You have to get past the atrocious 10 pound mushy trigger and tiny V sights to get any accuracy at all.

    Many folks just can't.

    rc
     
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    M1917 S&W .45acp revolver.

    I had one that for all the world, looked like it had been hit in the barrel by a rifle bullet. It was still one of the most accurate handguns I've ever owned. The D/A pull was incredibly smooth. I was a fool to trade it for something else.
     
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    My guess it would be between a S&W 15, a 1911 or the world's most widely used military pistol the FN Hi-Power.
     
  23. Dr_2_B

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    Sig P210 - There's nothing like being a far & away winner, is there?
     
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    The thread seem to be talking about all types of military issued handguns. In that case, the OP has it wrong thinking the SIG 210 is the most accurate of all time.

    The most accurate handgun I've ever laid hands on is a 1942 S&W Victory. One hole groups at most shooting sessions. I haven't seen a SIG that can touch it.

    The 1917 and other N frame S&W military guns are good, but inherently the K frame has an advantage in size and caliber that the N variants and Colts can't beat. And no autos can touch the WWII S&Ws. So pretty much these are the most accurate, mass-produced military handguns of all time:

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  25. G.A.Pster

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    Probably the Luger.
     
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