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Self-Defense.. with a bat instead of a gun.

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by twoblink, Jan 20, 2003.

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  1. twoblink

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    I went and bought a baseball bat for home protection last night... (as I can't have gun here in Taiwan)

    It seems that the problem of home protection is a big one in taiwan, big enough that my bat is not really for baseball use, but for home defense use! It says so on the bat!!

    The bat is 27" by 5cm in diameter, very small and light (Aluminum) and it's called a "Self-Defense" bat. It's strictly for homeD use only.

    It says:
    Aluminum Alloy
    Self-defense Bat for family use.

    So if "self-defense" is not a problem here in Taiwan as said by the police, why is there a bat specially designed for self-defense??

    The bat is pretty good though I have to admit, it's designed to be easily weilded by one hand...

    One of the problems that the thief is going to have, I "might" hesitate to use a gun on him, if I did catch him and he tries to run, but I can tell you, I would not hesitate to go Singaporean on him with a baseball bat...

    Here little thief, here little thief, Twoblink's got a present for your knees....
     
  2. 10-Ring

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    Good for you! Glad you can do something about this seemingly growing situation. Now, you need to find something to practice on. The use of a bat in self defense is more than just swinging for the bleachers ;)
     
  3. Triad

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    Is it a tactical home defense bat tho?
     
  4. redneck

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    Now bore it out to make a bangstick :D
     
  5. Airwolf

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    Nothing that a can of Krylon in "tactical black" can't fix. :D
     
  6. The White Flyer

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    Just out of curiosity, what's the crime like there? In Los Angeles, the murder rate is over 2 per day.
     
  7. Double Naught Spy

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    Consideration of more powerful ideas...

    Somehow, I have to figure that the home defense only bat is not specifically designed for home or self defense except for the marketing statement saying so. It does not sound like the bat has any special features to indicate it to be specifically designed for the task or at the exclusion to other tasks.

    Items like bats can be very useful tools, but keep in mind that if you are close enough to swing and hit the guy with a bat that you are likely within his hand-to-hand distance as well. The greater your standoff distance to the bad guy, the less likely you are to be injured by him.

    So if you can't own a firearm there, would it be legal to own a high pressure high powered air gun that shoots pellets (such as the Talon seen at http://www.webcom.com/airguns/AF_TalonSS.html), crossbow, spear gun, or bow and arrows.

    If legal and if you had to deal with a guy at such close range, could you own a 'bang stick' which was designed for use against sharks via a 12 ga. cartridge?
     
  8. kalibear45

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    You oughta rig up a 'tactical' lanyard for it in case the bad guy(s) try to take it away from you. :D

    And if you want to be evil, you can bang and bend some rusty nails to the end of it for more 'medieval' factor :evil:
     
  9. bobw

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    Just be careful if you start to hear people refer to it as an "Assault Bat".
     
  10. notbubba

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    I've always thought that an aluminum "T- ball" bat would make a dand good club.

    I could never figure out why a little kid would need an aluminum bat for T - ball. They sure ain't swinging for the fence.:p
     
  11. KMKeller

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    My son has an aluminum T-Ball bat... dang thing keeps ending up near my chair for some reason. "Dad, will you PLEASE leave my stuff alone?"
     
  12. bbrins

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    Good ol American Justice, a baseball bat and nails. I've got two bats, one has wood furniture and the other is in tactical black aluminum with rubber grips.:D
     
  13. Drjones

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    Screw the bat!

    If I can't have a gun, I'd at least want a good katana or other sword! :D
     
  14. BerettaNut92

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    Is the bat too big for Janie? How about a Maglite for her?
    It's not about guns...it's about control.
     
  15. makdaddy03

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    Oh yes, The baseball bat can be very effective. I practice with all kinds of improvised weapons. Have you tried Nunchukas? I think thats the correct spelling.=-) I understand that the chukas have 10X more energy upon impact than a baseball bat.
     
  16. twoblink

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    The bat is in "Tactical" Aluminum color...

    It actually _IS_ specifically designed for self-defense. It's VERY easy to swing with one hand, and very light, light enough that my gf can swing it without problems.

    Katana? I've got "Tactical cleavers"...
     
  17. Aikibiker

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    It ain't tactical until you attach a lot of useless stuff to it!

    It ain't tactical until you attach a lot of useless stuff to it!

    When I was in high school my buddy's Mom used to be a bartender at the Last resort, a biker bar in the Daytona area that caters to the 1% community.

    One of the things they kept behind the bar was an aluminum bat that had about 6 oz. of powdered lead in the tip. That bat had been used in quite few brawls over the years and I am sure it is still back there waiting for the next unruly customer or undercover cop that stumbles in.

    I am not sure how it was made but I would hazard a guess that you could drill a hole at the handle end and drop ground up or melted fishing weights down in your bat and then the dump in something light weight to act as wadding to keep the lead at the tip.

    Things to think about.

    Personally I think I would prefer a nice claw hammer.
     
  18. larry_minn

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    One thing I have never tried is take a can of oven spray and heat a pin to widen the nozzle. Spray that into burgulars face. (OK I did grab a can of oven spray off shelf at stop and rob when confronted with two road ragers as less lethal before gun. Lucky for both of us they left)
     
  19. Jim March

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    The problem with a bat for self defense is that you have to train 'em. I mean sure, a little fluttering black thing with huge teeth angrily sqeaking at somebody is potentially useful but...

    :neener:
     
  20. twoblink

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    I tried to attach a tac-light to it, but the rounded surface made it hard. Also, considering a cocobolo grip for it.. :D

    Would that make it more tactical??
     
  21. Kevlarman

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    A knife taped to the end might come in handy.
    :D
     
  22. Betty

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    A bat's better than nothing. I'd hate to use it against multiple attackers, though - my baton class really opened my eyes. :eek:

    twoblink, I hope you show Janie how to wield it effectively, and where the best points to strike are.

    I have a solid fiberglass axe handle that I use as a practice baton. The weight of it really strengthens the wrists. Someone sure wouldn't want to get clobbered with it.
     
  23. Soap

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    Keep knife defense high in your training regime with your new Tactical Bat. That will probably be the most likely weapon that you would encounter.
     
  24. Don Gwinn

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    I really believe an axe handle or something similar is more useful than the average adult baseball bat. However, this smaller aluminum version might be better. Someone (I think it was Thaddeus) at Bladeforums used to talk about all the guys he'd seen get clobbered by unarmed people who simply waited for them to swing a bat and then stepped inside the circle. (Thaddeus was a bouncer for awhile.)

    Don't forget that your bat can be jabbed as well as swung, and jabbing may make more sense than swinging at times. And hurry back to the Land of the Free!
     
  25. Double Naught Spy

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    twoblink, I'll bite. What exactly makes it designed to be for home or self defense? If you tell me that it is because you can easily swing it with one hand, I will tell you that you aren't very familiar with baseball bats and there are a lot of them out there that are light enough to do that with.

    So what makes it specifically designed?
     
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