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Sell Me on the HK91

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by BerettaNut92, Mar 26, 2003.

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  1. BerettaNut92

    BerettaNut92 Member

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    I'll be getting an AR15 when I move to Arizona...any reason I should get an HK91 first?
     
  2. Nightcrawler

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    Several reasons, Skunk.

    1. It costs more. Get it out of the way while you have the money.

    2. HK factory 20-round magazines run cheaper than GI 30 round AR mags.

    3. It's considerably more powerful than the AR-15.

    4. It lacks a gas system and is very reliable.

    5. It's cooler.

    6. EVERYbody has AR-15s. Being different than the pack is always cool.

    7. You have a love for HK weapons.

    8. It's one of the original Evil Black Rifles.

    9. I hear they're very accurate, in addition to being reliable.

    10. There plenty of custom shops and gunsmiths out there if anything goes wrong.

    11. If you buy an original, it'll be a preban. That means a bayonet, a collapsing stock if you want it, etc.

    12. Nothing says tactical like an HK.

    :cool:
     
  3. Schuey2002

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    Just get one when you are ready.

    OK! OK! Here are some good reasons to get one now.

    It's got Tacticality oozing out of it's roller lockers. It's black. It's made by H&K. It will go with your USP's and P7. It's black. Tamara has one. It will fit in perfectly with your "theme" collection. It's tactically logistical. Mags are runnin' $3-5 bucks a piece.

    Who cares if it will cost you around 2K. It's only money.

    As you said, " Money is no substitute for tacticality!" :D
     
  4. Destructo6

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    By even asking, you've exposed your desire. You'll continue to wonder until you finally buy one. Why torture yourself?

    Oh, and I can't think of much better than what Nightcrawler said.
     
  5. Tamara

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    AR-15's were never advertised by guys lurking in mud or jumping off cliffs on the back page of Soldier of Fiction. :D
     
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    Unless you absolutlely, just gotta have it, I'd spend that chunk of money on some other things first. It will go farther. I've had a couple of HK91's, and while they have their good points, they also have some annoying ones too. Mine were always accurate and reliable. You cant beat the QD scope mount that holds its zero. Although the ARMS mount is better than the HK for usefulness and comfort. It is a versitile rifle. The down sides are, its heavy and the balance isnt all that great. The controls are "just not quite right". You cant reach the safety in certain positions and the same goes for charging the gun, the charging handle can be a chore. All the accessories, except maybe for the mags, are expensive. The bipod would be better if it was adjustable, it was to high for me. They are well made, nice rifles, but once you play with them, the little things can really annoy you. They are not worth the money they command, but thats not really the guns fault here, just inflated prices. Personally, if I was in the market, I'd go with one of the Armalite AR10 type rifles. Its got the versitility of the HK, more user friendly, and with the right model, highly accurate. For what you will spend for the HK alone, you can almost get both AR's.
     
  7. Kharn

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    That sucker is more tactical than your wildest mall-ninja day-dreams. :neener:

    Kharn
     
  8. Art Eatman

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    And learning how to reassemble the bolt and get it back into place will teach you an incredible amount of patience, self-control and how to deal with frustration!

    It's psychologically tactical and will certainly enhance your maturity.

    Or you could get a nice little bolt-action .223 or .243 and learn all about calling coyotes. For a lot less money...

    :D, Art
     
  9. Chipperman

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    If you need convincing then you don't deserve one. :neener:


    Nightcrawler did a great job with his list.

    Remember that the HK does not have an annoying "Sproing" The cycling is smooth and fast.

    All HK91's are Preban, so they are only going up in price.

    When you get a sear, you can drop it in your HK91, 93, and MP5 with minor changes. :evil:

    It's an HK, 'nuff said.
     
  10. jem375

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    My son had one which I reloaded for and it was one of the most accurate rifles I have seen with open sights......
     
  11. Nightcrawler

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    And H&K friggin' INVENTED "tactical", Skunk! Do it! HK91! You know you want to....

    ;)
     
  12. brownie0486

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    Have owned an HK91 set up as a psg1 when I went to HK in 94 for counter-sniper training.

    They are accurate, reliable, heavy hitters. Sights are great as is but I had a tritium replacemet front sight on mine. Bipod, brass deflector, clawmount and scope, psg1 trigger, psg1 grip and stock.

    Qualified as a counter-sniper with HK in 94 with that rifle.

    They are heavy, no doubt about that but then anything throwing 308 reliably probably will be.

    Have had ar10's in 308. Not junk but certanily no HK91 either.

    Don't own any of them now, I'm playing with the big boys toys.

    m-14 Battle rifles rule. They may not be tacticool like the black rifles but hey, they bang hard and I was trained on them by the best instructors in the world [USMC DI's ].

    Nothing semi-auto says "I can touch you at 800 yds" like an m-14
    :cool:

    I have two post bans and three prebans in different guises. If you really want the ultimate [which I am having built on a preban when I get the rifle in from Biloxi, Ms.] get a preban m1a and have this http://www.troyind.com/ company build you a SOPMOD.

    Shorter than an m4, 308, folding stock for battle rifle or assault guise.

    Best of both worlds, I'll have mine in 6 weeks.

    Brownie
     
  13. Tamara

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    Art,

    Unless you happen to have an Actual German Drill SergeantTM around to teach you the right way. ;)
     
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    dood! that sopmod M14 is wicked cool.

    Send a picture of it to Diane Feinstein when you get it

    :evil:
     
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    Not until you buy a bolt action .22LR (preferably with a wooden stock)! :D Once you've learned to shoot a rifle, then maybe you should consider a black plastic tactical wonder. And best of all, you can probably buy the .22 now, so by the time you've moved, you'll be able to hit something with whatever you end up choosing...

    George
     
  16. plnkr1234

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    Hi Guys,

    What would a like new without box 91 go for?

    Thanks.
     
  17. El Tejon

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    Brasshopper, this is fellow tacgolfer, talksonphonealot, yes, there is a reason: to get it out of your system.

    Get the gig; get the gun you want. Get it out of your system while you're young.

    I was going to say walk the earf first and see what education brings, but I knew you would ignore me. Rightly so.:D
     
  18. Mannlicher

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    no. they are just not worth buying
     
  19. natedog

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    OT reply, but I'm just like you. I dream about all the pistol-gripped, hi-capactiy, bullet spewing, evil black assault rifles, even though I won't be getting out of Cali anytime soon. Arizona's great, though.
     
  20. Oleg Volk

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    I like lhe looks of them and even the sights which everyone else dislikes. Mags are cheap.

    Control layout is questionable and the balance is a bit too far forward even for my long arms. It is a lot of a rifle.

    I keep hoping to find one cheap but that's for amusement, not for serious use. The price of the rifle and accessories is so high that other choices make more sense to me...YMMV. Have you fired an HK91?
     
  21. Tamara

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    Oleg,

    You just need to eat more, bro. ;)
     
  22. Schuey2002

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    This applies to you to, Skunk..

    Time to eat your Tactical Wheaties..:D ;)
     
  23. Art Eatman

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    Tam, I guess it sez sumpn about my tinkerability that I managed the disassembly/clean/reassembly with neither the Sergeant nor any literature.

    If it ain't welded, it'll come apart. If it comes apart in some certain order, it'll go back together in reverse order. Anything that's spring-loaded requires three hands or prehensile toes. :)

    The 91 was a fun critter. I bought it on account of the guy threw in a thousand rounds at eight cents per each. After shooting the ammo, I found somebody wanted the 91 more than I did...

    Profit is nice.

    :), Art
     
  24. Tamara

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    It durn well does! :eek: I got as far as the bolt, decided I was too lazy to tinker with it or look something up online, and figured "What the heck, lendringser will be over tomorrow at lunch..." ;)
     
  25. BerettaNut92

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    Oleg, I fired an HK91 and didn't like it, but it was off a bench. I'll hate ANYTHING shooting from a bench.

    I'm going to call my buddy up and see if I can take him to lunch and shoot his 91.
     
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