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Selling & Shipping rifle to Canada

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by sam59, May 13, 2007.

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  1. sam59

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    Anyone know the details of selling a .22 rifle to a person in Canada? I have a rifle for sale and an individual from Canada claims he has a license to buy and possess, whatever that is. If anyone is familiar with the process please advise.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Lol. He's wasting your time. The license is a real thing, but there's no logical reason anyone would bother trying to import a .22 from the States. .22s are not heavily regulated or anything, and in theory it's easy to import them, but in practice it's work, and it's doubly hard to get permission from the US to export things.
     
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    Sure there is. If the rifle is rare, or something he can't find where he is, or is a way better price, etc. It may be a hassle, but I've seen folks go through some pretty big hoops to get that special gun they're looking for. Maybe it's not the case in this instance, but because they're not restricted in Canada doesn't make it illogical or a waste of time.
     
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    My experience is that you need an export license and an FFL license. You can ship antique firearms with much less hassle as you do not need an export license or an FFL.
    I went through this recently.
    Get your potential buyer to send you the letters HE writes to Canadian customs, 2 copies, one goes with the gun inside the package, the second is taped outside the package.
    However, as a U.S citizen, you need an export license almost for sure and and FFL as you cannot sell to another person except FTF and from your state.
    I doubt the price is worth getting in trouble over.
     
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    Do a search on 'ITAR", the International Traffic in Arms Regulations.
     
  7. AR-15 Rep

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    Is this a rare rifle? If not you would be using alot of your time and effort to get it there. I get e-mails and calls all the time of people saying they have all the paperwork and licensing to get the firearm but it would be illegal for me to ship the parts to them. I don't know what kind of paperwork they have but sure does seem like an awfull lot to get a .22 rifle in Canada. Might want to check with your local gun store to see what they know about shipping firearms to Canada before you start everything else.
     
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    Well. Actually if he is legal to purchase here in Canada he has VERY little hoops to jump through on the Canadian side. Declare it with customs, have a customs broker wharehouse it and initiate the registration procedure and take it home. BUT the American seller MUST have all the proper US export paperwork which if I recall costs about $1200 US and can take up to a year. The onus is very much on the exporter on the US side.
     
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    IIRC, in order to obtain a license to export a firearm from the U.S., the exporter must have authorization from the importing country (Canada in this case) allowing the import of the firearm. In other words, the rifle can't just show up at the border and be picked up like a tea service. Canada has a lot more hangups on firearms than the U.S. has and I suspect the person who showed up to take possession would be in deep trouble.

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    Calin think of it this way - to import a simple, uncut, .308 rifle barrel, uncut - there are NO Canadian regulations. However you need to meet US regulations, which means you need to receive and do paper-work for Canadian DFAIT (foreign affairs & trade), so that the barrel seller can give that to the US gov't to get export permits. That's a lot of hassle right there. Importing a rifle means that you've got not just double the paper-work, but probably quadruple. And then it probably has to be taken to a verifier, to verify it's what you say it is. None of that is going to be free, if you don't know the ropes already it's going to be incredibly difficult (I had to send the same request 6 times, by fax, no calls or letter) before I could get the gov't to send firearms importing paperwork) and if you try asking for help from people who import for a living they're going to be offended.
     
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