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Sen. Reid Proposes Sandy Hook Legislation

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  1. Bartholomew Roberts

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    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.2:

    S.2 - A bill to reduce violence and protect the citizens of the United States

    According to the Congressional Record remarks, the purpose of the bill is to promote "common sense prposals to reduce gun violence" among other things. The 15 co-sponsors are solid anti-gun types. The text of the bill is not yet available; but when available, it should tell us a lot about what kind of support we can expect from Senate Majority Leader Reid (NRA B+ rated).
     
  2. Cosmoline

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    This is extremely important. He's a gatekeeper for the Senate majority, and the sine quo non for any gun laws. Unfortunately one glace at the list of co-sponsors bodes very badly for what's in this bill. The four horsemen are all there.

    If Reid turns, he MUST be ousted with extreme prejudice to set an example. Just like Tom Foley in 1994. When is he up again?

    As an aside, there is NO excuse for the delay in the bill text going public. This nonsense about too large a volume sounds like smoke screen to help keep bills from the public eye in order to railroad them through. We need to watch this like hawks and be prepared for immediate written responses to our Senators. This is where the rubber meets the road!
     
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    If Feinstein, Lautenberg and Schumer are signed on as co-sponsors you know this bill is going to suck.
     
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    "The text of S.2 has not yet been received from GPO"
     
  5. Creature

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    Cosmoline wrote:
    This bears repeating. It would seem that they have something to hide in this bill and want as little scrutiny as possible...
     
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    "Well. Ya know, we have to vote on it before we find out what's in it." ala Nancy Pelosi and the "Affordable" Health Care Act.
     
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    Reid has stated this is his last term so he has nothing to lose and I am afraid we will see his true colors.
     
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    Definitely worth paying attention to until the text is known. Even though, very doubtful it will be anything good.
     
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    Where are all the people that took me to task when I was upset with Arsenal for giving money to Reid's campaign in what was a hotly contested race? Where are all the, Sen Reid is pro gun and an ally of the RKBA movement folks now? We will see what Reid does but every move he has made on this stuff has been disconcerting. Although if you paid any attention to what his actual past voting record and comments were it was obvious he wasn't a guy that had any real principles with respect to the second amendment.
     
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    No conspiracy. It actually takes real-world time for a bill text to go to the Government Printing Office and become available on line.

    This will be true of Feinstein's bill tomorrow as well.

    I'd guess Monday for the texts of each; might be sooner, might be later.
     
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    Are they moving them to the printing office by horse and buggy? Are they using scriveners to transcribe them? This is absurd. There is quite obviously an electronic text already in circulation among the Senators. The public should have real-time access to that information, not be told to wait till the horses have been fed.

    I guess we have no choice though unless someone can find a leaked PDF of the bill. Imagine having to hack your way into .gov servers to find the text of a bill. That's what it's come to in the USA.
     
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    It took over a week for the GPO to take the initial flood of House bills and convert them to Federal Register format and GPO bill text. You could watch the progress, which was roughly 25-30 bills a day. Reid's bill should be available on Thursday and, depending on how many other bills are filed in the Senate, Feinstein's bill should be available on Monday or later.
     
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    Ya know, the GPO could take a page from private industry and not do anything until it was in the correct format.

    I did that to subs of mine on several jobs. No cover page, sent it back and made them add it. No submittal info, sent it back and made them add it.

    If the GPO hasn't figured this out, its no wonder why the gov't is in debt over its eyeballs. Quite doing someone elses job for them and save yourself a ton of time, money, and hassle while you're at it.
     
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    It's just a placeholder.

    S. 2

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the ``Sandy Hook Elementary School Violence Reduction Act''.

    SEC. 2. SENSE OF THE SENATE.

    It is the sense of the Senate that Congress should--

    (1) support the efforts of the President of the United States to reduce violence in the United States;

    (2) promote common-sense proposals for preventing gun violence;

    (3) provide law enforcement officers with the tools necessary to combat violent crime and protect communities, and protect themselves;

    (4) ensure children can attend school free from the threat of violence;

    (5) support States and local districts to ensure schools have the safe and successful learning conditions in which all students can excel;

    (6) provide tools for identifying individuals that pose a threat to themselves or others, so they can receive appropriate assistance;

    (7) keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of criminals and individuals who are not lawfully authorized to possess them;

    (8) promote information-sharing that will facilitate the early identification of threats to public safety;

    (9) mitigate the effects of violence by promoting preparedness;

    (10) provide training for educational professionals, health providers, and others to recognize indicators of the potential for violent behavior;

    (11) examine whether there is a connection between violent media and violent behavior;

    (12) enable the collection, study, and publication of relevant research; and

    (13) expand access to mental health services, with a focus on children and young adults.
     
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