Senate (Toomey-Manchin Amend.) Gun Bill Has been...

[CmdrSlander]

KILLED!

Its blocked now.

The Toomey Manchin Amendment was the only moderate/bipartisan element that may have wooed republicans, the UBC bill is virtually dead now.

 

[hnk45acp]

killed

 

[Ryanxia]

Are you just basing this on how they claim they will vote tomorrow?

 

[USAF_Vet]

How was it killed? Link please.

 

[CmdrSlander]

Are you just basing this on how they claim they will vote tomorrow?

No. They just voted on the Toomey-Manchin bit which was the only part Republicans would have supported possibly.

I'm watching it live now.

 

[mdauben]

Yes!!!

 

[Cosmoline]

54-46--that's OUR NUMBER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sdXJiKsQrI

(Appropriate since we won't be going to prison now)

 

[CmdrSlander]

How was it killed? Link please.

They don't have enough votes to advance it. They needed sixty.

 

[gopguy]

Turn on CSPAN2 folks they are dealing with the gun bills now.

 

[Blackstone]

Huzzah!? Do you have a link to a livestream?

 

[The Teacher]

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

 

[CmdrSlander]

Huzzah!? Do you have a link to a livestream?

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

Some anti just shouted "shame on you!"

Shame on you for assaulting the Bill of Rights, mam.

 

[The Teacher]

You can also go back and watch all the votes from the beginning, including the Toomey-Manchin vote, here:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Voteson

 

[Ryanxia]

Yes! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

See what we can do as a nation when we defend freedom?!

 

[SuperNaut]

Excellent, now let's make a list of those to go in 2014.

 

[CmdrSlander]

Yes! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

See what we can do as a nation when we defend freedom?!

Heck Yeah!

But remember that their are a horde of other amendments, including an AWB and mag ban that will be debated in the coming weeks and months. All this means is that any bipartisan support is now dead. If a few Blue Dog dems vote with us as they often do, we are good to go.

 

[The Teacher]

Heck Yeah!

But remember that their are a horde of other amendments, including an AWB and mag ban that will be debated in the coming weeks and months. All this means is that any bipartisan support is now dead. If a few Blue Dog dems vote with us as they often do, we are good to go.

I think those votes happen today as well, but I'm not positive.

 

[CmdrSlander]

Update: The Grassley/Cruz amendment which was very Pro-gun with no concession failed 52-48.

So far we have lost nothing and gained nothing.

 

[AlexanderA]

The Grassley plan was voted down also. This means that the underlying bill defaults to the Schumer UBC, which is so unpalatable in the Senate that it kills the whole bill. The rest of the votes today are just an academic exercise.

 

[longknife12]

This will never be over till they get whatb they want.....Remember that!
Dan

 

[leadaddict]

It's bitter-sweet. Good that it didn't pass; sad that a majority of US senators voted for this atrocity. We must now keep up the pressure.

 

[CoRoMo]

In RELATED news...

The local Walmart is chocked full of ammo again!!



WOW!! Just goes to show you how fast the panic buying 'cooled off' once the gun control legislation died.

 

[CmdrSlander]

In RELATED news...
The local Walmart is chocked full of ammo again!!

But, Colorado...

 

[itchy1]

Seems like those liberally biased poll questions/results on background checks were off just a little bit. These Senators want to get re elected. If 90% of their constituents wanted this bill to pass, it would have passed. 50+ Senators willing to sell us out is still way too many though.

 

[AlexanderA]

Lest anyone become overconfident going forward, keep in mind that the gun bill would have passed if this was a straight majority vote. It was killed only because of the Senate filibuster rules, which require 60 votes to do anything. If the Senate majority (Reid & co.) really wanted to bypass the filibuster, they could have done so, by reforming the rules earlier in the session. In many ways, what happens in the Senate is Kabuki theater and political posturing.