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Senate Votes To Address U.N. Gun Ban Crusade

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by camacho, Sep 8, 2007.

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  1. camacho

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    Find this item at: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=3228
     
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  2. fletcher

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    I'm amazed. 81-10? Great news for us :)
     
  3. stevek

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    Great, but...will the House pass it, and will the President sign it? If not, then all we have is a gesture by the Senate that doesn't really amount to much. If I were even more cynical :evil:, I might think that the Senate passed the bill knowing it didn't have much chance in the House. I hope and pray that it indeed does pass, if for no other reason than it will finally get our money out of the U.N., because I really can't see them giving up their gun grabbing ways.
     
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    Of course the president will sign it. He's only vetoed 2 things in 6 1/2 years. The odds are with him signing anything that crosses his desk.
     
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    that and he has already told the UN to (basically) shove it , so i would say he will take at least one last chance to do that while being backed by congress on doing it.
     
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    Scared of the House

    I'm afraid of the house but a BIG +1 jerkface

    Could it be were finally seeing the benefits of the Blue Dog Democrats from the last election? Wasn't it Wade and his ilk?
     
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    The House will approve this also. The House is generally more pro-gun than the Senate.

    I'd also like to point out that the Democrats have a majority in the Senate, and still passed a pro-gun bill? Whats up with that?
     
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    It was tied to the Foreign Operations Appropriations bill.

    I'd be more impressed if they had voted for this all on its own. As is, once the rider was attached, there wasn't much chance of the whole thing's not passing.

    Still, does mean that the House is likely to pass it, too.

    Edit: My mistake, the 81 - 10 vote was on the addition of the amendment to the bill. I'm not sure if the bill has passed yet, still researching on Thomas.

    Edit 2: Final vote has taken place in neither the House nor Senate. Last action listed as "9/6/2007 Resolving differences -- Senate actions. Status: Senate insists on its amendment, asks for a conference, appoints conferees Leahy; Inouye; Harkin; Mikulski; Durbin; Johnson; Landrieu; Reed; Byrd; Gregg; McConnell; Specter; Bennett; Bond; Brownback; Alexander; Cochran."

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR02764:

    edit 3: Text of amendment

    (Sidenote: Page 410! Page 410! Yow.)

    I do think that none of these things ever go far enough. The UN continually seeks to raise the price of firearms for U.S. citizens by funding the destruction of guns and ammunition. I would be much happier if the Vitter Amendment addressed that. I'm offended enough that the UN does these horrible, wasteful things; I'm appalled that I have to help fund it.
     
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    Does anybody know the ten Senators who voted against the amendment? I'll bet half of them are Democratic presidential candidates.
     
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    Wonder who the 10 were? You can probably guess:

    Durbin (D-IL)
    Feinstein (D-CA)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Kennedy (D-MA)
    Menendez (D-FL)
    Schumer (D-NY)
    Reed (D-RI)
    Lautenberg (D-NJ)
    Levin (D-MI)
    Whitehouse (D-RI)

    Not voting were:

    Biden (D-DE)
    Clinton (D-NY)
    Dodd (D-CT)
    Obama (D-IL)
    McCain (R-AZ)
     
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    81-10

    Sorry to jump in again but I just reread the article. This passed 81-10...

    Where the :cuss::cuss::cuss: were the other 9 senators!?!?!

    Isn't this their job? Somebody needs a pink slip!
     
  12. eric.cartman

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    Is it just me? Or is this NOT coincidental?
     
  13. DMK

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    Not wanting to tip their hand just yet...

    Hmm, nothing there mentioning destruction or confiscation though.

    Or am I just cynical?
     
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    oh its so on purpose. that way they cant be accused of supporting gun rights by democrats. and they cane be accused of wanting to hurt gun rights by gun owners
     
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    Or they could have been busy campaigning. Instead of, you know, doing what we pay them for.
     
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    Exactly my thoughts, they should resign their posts when they run for President.
     
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    Usual suspects, did we really expect different?

    Voting against or not voting at all.
     
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    That's great, but even IF it is signed into law, it won't hold water if Heller v. DC goes the wrong way. If SCotUS rules that 2A is not an individual right, then it really won't matter. You'll hear something like this: "Well, because the 2nd Amendment only protects the rights of the States to organize their militias, we can continue to fund the UN's [insert latest gun-grabbing scheme here] with money from the American taxpayers."

    God forbid.
     
  19. Dick1911

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    Grandstanding or not, there IS still hope.

    Just be glad you don't get all the government you pay for. If we did our health care would be run like the the Post Office and DMV :D
     
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    Fella's;

    No coincidence that McCain's on the did not vote list. He may be nominally a Republican, but he's not on our side, ie. pro RKBA.

    900F
     
  21. outerlimit

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    This has basically already happened everywhere except here.
     
  22. Blackbeard

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    I think it's just that he's a presidential candidate and A) didn't have time, or B) didn't want to go on record, like all the other presidential candidates. A lot of anti senators voted for the measure, namely:

    Byrd (D-WV)
    Cantwell (D-WA)
    Inouye (D-HI)
    Landrieu (D-LA)
    Leahy (D-VT)
    Mikulski (D-MD)
     
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    Let us hope. Without US money, the UN will fold like a cheap accordian.
     
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    +1

    I wonder how many anti-senator actually took the time to thoroughly read the bill before voting for the bill! :rolleyes:
     
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