Senior fires at police during raid and lives!

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screw the lawsuit

Screw the lawsuit - I would like to see the responsible parties (officers who threw the flashbangs, ordered the flashbangs, authorized policy allowing flashbangs) brought up on criminal charges.

Any civilian who did something so outrageous, stupid and dangerous would be sitting in cell right now chatting with their defense attorney.
 
MechAg94 wrote:

Spreadfire, from the article is sounded like there was very little reason to think the suspect you mention was actually at that house. A stakeout would have been much more effective.
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you're right. details are fuzzy but im not even sure how the warrant got signed.
 
Killjoy?

I don't see how. The article you linked to gives no more or less information than was given at the beginning. The guy they were looking for wasn't there nor did they intend to arrest him if he was. They were just snooping with a judges consent. The house did not have to burn because they did not have to serve the warrant. There seems to be no definate cause for the warrant, so it shouldn't have been signed, given what we know at the moment.

Neither the original account nor this one gives any time frame from the supposed announcement by bullhorn and the forced entry.

Anyone who think flashbangs are incapable of starting a fire is a first class idiot. Not a common occurence, but how does Chief Wiggum know what it landed near in the bedroom?
 
The US Military is being criminalized for raids in a combat zone resulting in the deaths of civilians. Paramilitary police forces are killing US Citizens in eroneous raids.

Why are the police exempt from persecution, but the Military is vilified?
 
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me for posting link to wrong article sorry
http://www.ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=297958


They said they were at the home because earlier in the week, they had found a Cadillac Escalade near the home they believe was stolen by 23-year-old Erasmo Ruiz Villarreal, Scottsdale police Sgt. Mark Clark said.


Clark said the Escalade was registered to the Phoenix home that was burned. Clark added that ``other investigative sources'' pointed to the house as a place where police could find stolen goods from a Gilbert burglary in which Villarreal is a suspect.

Sonia Celaya said the Escalade is hers, but that it was in the repair shop Sunday and had not been stolen or missing.
 
'Just follwing orders'.
Didn't some of Hitlers pals try to use that excuse at the end of WWII?
It didn't fly then, and it should work now,either.

992
 
Back in the '60s some people arned themselves to protect themselves from abusive Los Angles LEOs.

The LEOs used the old style CS gernades and burned down the house with many in it.

I thought there were laws passed then to stop the use of gases that made fires when deployed. Waco only happened because the Christians were using dangerous candles. How was the tank operator to guess that afer the power was cut, they would burn candles?
 
the Cops are always right....

PHP: 
Yes, this was a bad situation - but it wasn't the "kickers" fault - it came down from FAR above.

Has anyone ever heard of the word "concience"?

Does right and wrong have a place here? Is it just a matter of, "What we can get away with....and, what we can't get away with...?

The Cops are always right. Even if what they did to you was wrong it was still the right thing to do. You have no business complaining, because YOU have never been a police officer. The poor Ba%$&rd should have complied, been submissive, obeyed.....

Our forefathers stood at Lexington and Concord so they wouldn't have to obey, comply and be submissive to an authority against which they had no recourse. They are rolling over in their graves these days. I am sure of it.
 
From the Arizona Republic Newspaper article December 22nd....
Duncan said due to standard safety precautions, police did not allow Phoenix Fire Department to fight the blaze, but firefighters were on standby.
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Jeepers creepers...golly gee, that sounds familiar....where did I hear that before....?
 
I found the listing of the residents medical conditions odd.Its my guess thats prvt information, that now the whole world can know.This is something professionals can and will be sued over.


Or perhaps its to justify the oops moment of doing the house and later burning it down?
 
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" found the listing of the residents medical conditions odd.Its my guess thats prvt information, that now the whole world can know.This is something professionals can and will be sued over.


Or perhaps its to justify the oops moment of doing the house and later burning it down?"



really? you didn't think it was the daughter who mentioned it? the daughter that owned the car the cops say was stolen in the home invasion?

who do you envision being sued? for what?
shucks i must be a mean guy i figure that aside from the fire it was a good deal. no one got killed or hurt bad. inspite of the shots being fired they used bean bag rounds. so maybe whoever let the cops know saved the old mans bacon
 
cassandrasdaddy

"really? you didn't think it was the daughter who mentioned it? the daughter that owned the car the cops say was stolen in the home invasion?"

You don't read very well do you.

Her vehicle was not stolen.
No charges are filed against anyone in the house.
The guy they were looking for does not live there. They never heard of him.
They burned down the house of an inocent family.
 
shucks i must be a mean guy i figure that aside from the fire it was a good deal. no one got killed or hurt bad. inspite of the shots being fired they used bean bag rounds. so maybe whoever let the cops know saved the old mans bacon
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All of these people whining and complaining: it was just one old man and he had Alzheimer's too. No harm, no foul, and the cops went home okay. It's a tough job, burning down people's homes, and they deserve support for doing it. Let's give them a big hand.
 
hmm i read about 800 wpm when my eyes are working right

maybe you could try post 57 and the link there get back to us ith the next keen incisive analysis
 
cassandrasdaddy

"really? you didn't think it was the daughter who mentioned it? the daughter that owned the car the cops say was stolen in the home invasion?"

You don't read very well do you.

Her vehicle was not stolen.
No charges are filed against anyone in the house.
The guy they were looking for does not live there. They never heard of him.
They burned down the house of an inocent family.
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Hey just because the guy can't read isn't any reason to put him on the spot. He can't write either, but let's give him credit for doing a lot of it.
 
"Criminals with badges.

Too bad Salvador didn't have better aim".

Why do you say that? most Swat units are reserves just like myself, we dont get paid for our general details and those guys did everything by the reg. The screw-up was with the idiot who put the wrong address down.
 
maybe you could try post 57 and the link there get back to us ith the next keen incisive analysis
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You don't read very well do you.
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Anyone who think flashbangs are incapable of starting a fire is a first class idiot.
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Enough.

You know, I haven't mass banned members here in a long time. Hate to pull one of my patented sturm undt drang sessions on a Christmas day, but quite frankly, the level of incivility here makes it bloody well tempting.

LawDog
 
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