"Serenity"--a gun slinging libertarian western in space (SPOILERS)

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I won't explain how i saw the series... since it ain't right... <snicker> but i DO know i will go buy both the movie/series soon. Try before ya buy right? rofl - i'd broken up w/ my ex just before firefly came on TV, and since i didn't watch TV too much cept w/ her... never knew...

My best friend swears there are new firefly episodes on sci-fi... can't confirm or deny...

One thing that got dropped in the last 4 pages... that since i'm obviously not OCB... is... River....

In the series ya'll are right... he's got her in suspended animation thingie and she gets released when (jayne? Mal?) gets entirely too curious "whats in the box"...

in the Movie... he's a daring Brother playing the role of a serious Alliance Doc.. (something he def SHOULD be able to do... altho masqurading as something on that other planet... he might feel a bit weird about...) on a rescue mission draggin her from Needle recepticle... to... full conscience... to jumping through windows on to lifts in a tube!

Honestly thought when i heard there was a serenity movie... (found firely entirely by..erm.. suprise... be suprised what a google of "serenity" will find... snicker) I had thought... oh COOL.. a movie to continue the series... and it ... sorta does... and sorta conflicts.. nothing new i know... hope it continues... the writing of the series and the movie both were excellent if ya ask me... last time i thought the writing was that good was watching "WestWing" and if i was a "critic" that would mean something.. (snicker)

as i Said love em BOTH. =)

J/Tharg!
 
There are no new episodes of Firefly on Scifi, or anywhere else for that matter. Scifi's merely showing them in the correct order, unlike Fox when they had the show.
 
Missed seeing "Firefly" when it was on television. Rented "Serenity" and a couple of DVDs of "Firefly" and am really enjoying them. Reminds me a bit of some of Mike Resnick's books--"Santiago" and his other books set in that world(science fiction with a Western vibe.)
 
What Cosomoline said. I think DVD sales are going to be taken a lot more seriously in the coming years. I also have seen maybe 6-7 movies at the theater in the last maybe 6-7 years.

With bigscreen HD TVs dropping in price like crazy, HD cable and satellite signals, HD DVD recorders, $3.99 PPV movies, businesses like NetFlix, and TiVo recording, pausing, and playback, why pay $10 to see a movie at a theater full of noisy, uncouth citizens, that's always either too hot or to cold, with $5 sodas, and if you have to go to the bathroom you know you're gonna miss the best part of the movie and have to pay $10 to see it again (how's that for a run-on sentence?) :)

I'll take a DVD, my easy chair, the remote with "pause' function, and the fridge 30 feet away with $0.25 a pop sodas in it over a theater any day of the week. Except for absolutely "have to see it now" stuff like the LOTR movies or Serenity. But an increase in and acceptance of "direct to DVD" will take care of that too.
 
Cosmoline:

Amazon is just its own on-line sales
That part I figured out on my own. :)

I just thought it surprising that the Amazon DVD-buying demographic would be so different from the nation at large (if that is what Billboard reflects).

Your explanation about the Billboard time lag explains it, though.
 
Tharg said:
One thing that got dropped in the last 4 pages... that since i'm obviously not OCB... is... River....

In the series ya'll are right... he's got her in suspended animation thingie and she gets released when (jayne? Mal?) gets entirely too curious "whats in the box"...

in the Movie... he's a daring Brother playing the role of a serious Alliance Doc.. (something he def SHOULD be able to do... altho masqurading as something on that other planet... he might feel a bit weird about...) on a rescue mission draggin her from Needle recepticle... to... full conscience... to jumping through windows on to lifts in a tube!

there was no conflict between the series and movie regarding River. In the series, the first we see of them is when they book passage on serenity, and yes, River is in a crate in suspended animation. But it was explained then that Simon had sprung her from an Alliance facility before this. The movie just flashes back to the earlier escape. Its not two different stories or anything.
 
I got the DVD for christmas. Sadly no deleted scenes of Jayne playing the guitar.
 
no new episodes of Firefly on Scifi

There were three episodes not shown by Fox, which were released
on the Firefly series DVD, and subsequently played on SciFi Channel.

Technically not new episodes, but new to those who saw the series
on Fox network.
 
ok - guess i got em all... but still want em on DVD....

fox aired "serenity" last?!?!?!? NFW!

good lord...

J/Tharg!
 
Just watched the DVD again. Personally, I would have reorganized the fight scenes and had River save mal and fight the Operative in a nice kung fu match, rather than the more far-fetched fight against the reavers.

Whedon does a good job with plots and character, but he's still too mired in "Buffy" style "slayer vs. vampire" fighting. You can really see, esp. towards the end, how the reavers start to become Buffyverse vamps--turning to dust with one hit. It's a blemish on an otherwise pretty realistic series. He should have given the final Reaver showdown to Jayne and Vera.
 
I can overlook it. The series and movie are still worlds better than any of the other scifi stuff.
 
IndianaDean said:
I can overlook it. The series and movie are still worlds better than any of the other scifi stuff.


I concur. Its basically one of two movies I've seen this year that I am glad I paid my $8 for, the other being Walk the Line. I saw Serenity twice:cool:
 
M-Rex said:
Can non-Libertarians enjoy the movie?


Anyone who asks a question like that doesn't have a clue of what libertarianism is. And I don't want to burst anybody's bubble, but Thin Blue Line is a misappropriation of poetic imagery from Kipling's Tommy:

. . . hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.

Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy how's yer soul?"

But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll. . . .

Oh--and the quote is, more correctly: "Beware the wrath of a patient man."--Plato


Happy New Year and Semper Fidelis. Platoon 202 "Charlie" Company

2nd Battallion Parris Island "Tet" 1968.
 
With bigscreen HD TVs dropping in price like crazy, HD cable and satellite signals, HD DVD recorders, $3.99 PPV movies, businesses like NetFlix, and TiVo recording, pausing, and playback, why pay $10 to see a movie at a theater full of noisy, uncouth citizens, that's always either too hot or to cold, with $5 sodas, and if you have to go to the bathroom you know you're gonna miss the best part of the movie and have to pay $10 to see it again (how's that for a run-on sentence?)

Darn fine run-on sentence.

Friends don't let friends buy bigscreen televisions, HD or otherwise. Bogie's Bunker has a projector on the ceiling, pointed at a 92" screen, and the beer's only steps away.

Saw the flick tonight/last night, depending on your definition of "night" and "morning." Pretty darn fine, all things considered. Fellow needed to aim better tho...

And isn't this Baldwin fellow the brother of _those_ Baldwins?
 
And isn't this Baldwin fellow the brother of _those_ Baldwins?

THEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDS!!

jayne-vera.jpg


He's the antithesis of "those" Baldwins--both on and off screen.
 
yeah, jayne's been slammed! :cuss: :fire:

In interviews I have seen adam baldwin is about the most likeable actor you'd come across
 
Adam Baldwin is, I'm told, a rather outspoken Republican.


Has there been any word on whether or not they're going to release a special-edition DVD?

Typically it seems like they release a DVD shortly after the theatrical run, and then several months later release a special edition and/or director's cut. I haven't picked up a copy of Serenity yet simply because I expect there to be a better edition to be released.
 
The current DVD has quite a lot of extras on it, and I don't get the sense from Whedon that he has a different cut he likes better. What was on screen *WAS* his cut. From all those years doing TV he's unusually well disciplined about cutting out extra stuff. THe DVD does have some fun cut scenes, but nothing that really needs to be in the film.

I do wish they had more commentary tracts than Whedon, but I don't think a more expanded special edition is coming out anytime soon.
 
From what I've read on some of the fan sites, Whedon does not want to do a special edition of any kind although the browncoats are demanding a special enhanced edition just for themselves. Maybe there will be enough money to make it happen but I doubt it'll be released 3 months from now. Whedon is off working on something to do with Wonder Woman IIRC. The deleted scenes on the DVD could have been used to add another 15-20 minutes to the movie and make it less jumpy IMO, but, per film experts, the deleted scenes would require alot of work to be ready to add into the film. My impression is the scenes were deleted well before the final version and were not last minute cuts.

I'll admit the first viewing of the movie (on DVD) left me thinking the series was better than the movie, but I was tired and a 2nd and 3rd viewing has increased my personal rating of the film; no regrets now. The series is a hard act to follow with 10 hours of time getting to know the characters and story vs. 2 hours with a film that had to cater to people who had (and had not) seen the series.

A slight disappointment was Kaylee. In the series she was a lovable, happy, girl-next-door who happened to be mechanically inclined. In the movie she is 20 pounds lighter (her normal, very skinny self), a few years older (duh) and definitely not the same happy Kaylee anymore. Most of the other characters were about the same as the series except the doctor was more assertive (maybe even annoying) in the movie.

I recommend buying both. Wally world did have the Firefly series for $20; don't know if any are left, but that's a deal since most places are selling it for $30+
 
I now have the TV series and Serenity on DVD. Serenity seems "darker", less upbeat, but hits you in the gut with its libertarian message. The assassin's comments are perhaps the best anti-liberal, anti-socialist and anti-statist message I've seen in a long time.
 
I finally got around to watching Serenity last night. I was not a fan of the TV show, so I was viewing the movie cold, not already a fan of the characters. I thought the movie was VERY uneven. It did have some good points, as have been discussed above. I liked the opening with the dream in a dream reveal. Joss remarks in his commentary that allowed a lot of exposition in a cool way. I also am a sucker for space opera movies, grew up watching star wars, ect. so am a good candidate to be a fan of this movie. I liked the message that total government control is a bad thing. I like that Mal is a dark, conflicted hero that shoots first. So I really dug many of the Themes of the movie.
However, there were enough problems with it that I could only recomend it as a movie to the right person. It is really made more for the Fanboy croud then a general audience. I wish it was a Western in theme, but less literally a western with low slung gunbelts and 1860s era revolvers. I just can't buy the guns of the movie at all. Colt dragoon revolvers, lever action shotguns with high power scopes, silly bolt bow contraptions really hurt my enjoyment. I little more realistic weapon design would be nice. Same with the western outfits, I wish it was a western in mentality, not clothing. Lots of fingers on triggers when out of danger, Torres was bad about this. I also hater the way Mal would choke up on his SA revolver, holding it by the cyl with his finger in the triggerguard.
I am suprised no one has mentioned the sometimes really stilted dialogue. How kaylee could say the "I ain't had nothing twixt my nethers...." line and now crack up is a wonder. So thumbs down for the dialogue.
I realise the movie was made with a limited budget, but the spaceship crash landings had a really poor sense of momentum and enertia for me. It seemed like the ship would hit the ground with hardly any forward momentum, and then proced to slide a really long way, knocking of parts, with no loss of forward speed due to friction.
I really do like this movie overall despite my gripes. Looks like I need to rent the TV series now. I only ever saw the one fox showed first, the train robers one. No a good way to start the series off at all.
 
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