Sex offender registration - for a sheep-abuser???

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fantacmet said:
As for the dog? I've had a dog do it once. As soon as dog started to mount up I punted the pooch accross the room into the wall.
For you animal rights activists, punt does not mean kick. Pooch was on leg, I simply flung pooch, but punted the pooch sounded WAY cooler then flung the pooch so there.

Rev. Michael
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I don't think only "animal rights activists" are bothered by someone kicking/punting a dog across a room into a wall a dog instead of trying to train it. Just my opinion of course.
CT
 
A lot of people who will do things like that to animals, will also do those things to children, too...
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Completely unrelated phenomena. That's like saying that the Catholic priests that were molesting choir boys did that because they were gay, and all gays are filthy pedophiles. And unfortunately, there are way too many ignorant bigots who say exactly that.

The fact is, most of those priests were most likely one of the following, or possibly a combination:
1. Straight pedophiles who would have preferred little girls, but decided to settle for second best rather than nothing (low inhibition control; the vast majority of pedophiles go their entire life without ever touching a child, and instead choose partners that look younger than they really are, etc.)
2. Just plain pedophiles who didn't really care about the sex of the child
3. "Power" rapists who want to feel like they have power over who/what ever they're doing (some people who do bestiality fall in this category, but they're a minority)
4. "Acceptance" rapists who want to feel accepted by the raped (once again, a few bestialists fall in this category as well)

The real facts about zoophilia is that in 99% of cases, it's a totally harmless activity. The animal either enjoys it or doesn't really care, and no one finds out about it most of the time. Just like almost any other form of sexual intercourse; 99% of the time, it's between consenting individuals, and no one finds out about it.

And really, how could you not tell if an animal is enjoying, or at least ambivalent to whatever you're doing to it? Most animals are capable of expressing rudimentary emotions quite clearly. Sheep can bite or kick. Dogs can bite. A horse could kick you into the next county. Are you constantly worrying about whether your dog is actually enjoying playing fetch, or getting patted on the head? The signs are pretty obvious. Sheep don't have the same body language as dogs, but that doesn't mean they're incapable of kicking you in the family jewels.

A fair number of zoophiles actually form deep emotional bonds with their animal "partners," just like they would with a human, if they were "normal." Others are just in it for the sex, but is that so different from a guy who has one-night stands with humans?

As for why, there's no way of telling. Why do some men like to see women in lingerie? Why are there "leg men," "butt men," and "breast men?" Why are some people foot fetishists? Why do some people like BDSM? What about the wet and messy fetish? The balloon fetish is supposed to be one of the most common out there, *** is up with that? I don't mean to mock people with that particular kink, but really. Balloons?
 
tellner said:
There are plenty of laws against cruelty to animals. They assume that animals are entitled to a certain amount of humane treatment.
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Which somehow allow the removal of genetalia without anaesthesia, as well as quite a few unpleasant means of ending a critter's life when it's to be made into lunch when a 12-bore would work just fine. Hypocricy, anyone?

CentralTexas said:
I have now come to the conclusion that bestiality may not deserve sex offender status. It should bring animal cruelty or another charge without a doubt. Some here will argue it's not cruel, well maybe you have a gentle way, please don't go into details. :neener:

From a public health standpoint, what is the possibility of disease? Green monkeys and AIDS? Bird Flu?
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Having just leafed through zoonotic diseases... the risk of transmission is fairly minimal; the only one likely to get anything is our weirdo. AIDS was passed by someone butchering a monkey with an open wound or scratch or something; it's happened at least twice with different monkey species each time. Probably gonna get brucellosis, if anything, and that's not generally life-threatening and clears in about 2 months untreated; mortality is 2%. Actually, as that infects the uterus and mammaries, that may actually be transmitted reliably. While scrapie (mad-cow, CJD, 'sponge-brain syndrome') is also zoonotic, that requires consumption of brain tissue of an infected animal. Lyme disease is also possible, but not probable if the sheep are well cared for. Ah, I stand corrected, leptospiriosis is "probably the most widespread of all the zoonoses" causing one or two deaths per year, most of the time it's merely quite unpleasant if not asymptomatic. The disease itself is quite painflul, but doesn't cause tissue damage; immune backlash in a few cases causes damage to capillaries, causing damage to basically all organs.
Rabies is unlikely if the livestock is vaccinated.
Cowpox is unlikely if the person's vaccinated (or had chickenpox)
Rocky mountain spotted fever is quite rare, but still possible.
[EDIT] Almost forgot about lycanthropy. Rare, but quite obvious; causes damage mostly through the 'point-and-laugh' route. In cases contracted from sheep, often accompanied by a 'follow-the-leader' mentality, but this is often minimal to no change at all.

All in all, odds are slim to none of touching off an epidemic.

proud2deviate said:
I can't help but think that this was not the original intention of the sex offender registries. I really don't think the general public has a right to know everybody else's kink. How long before we start registering folks for practicing anal or oral sex? Cohabitation? Pre-marital sex? They're all illegal in various locals. How long before the registries get so watered down by the BDSM crowd and the crossdressers that they're useless to the "normal" folks?

I can't condone what this guy did. He trespassed and caused damage to another's livestock. I do not think he deserves a lifelong scarlet letter for his actions, and I further believe that registering him as a sex offender is a disservice to those who the registries were intended to protect.

I personally don't want to end up in a country where anything more than the missionary position with the lights off for the purpose of procreation is a felony. If you can't stomach somebody else's kink, then look the other way. In general, folks should have a reasonable expectation to be left the hell alone, regardless of another individual's (or society's, for that matter) take on morallity.
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We have a winner. In fact, we tried that in the late 1800s/early 1900s. You know that American eugenics experiments inspired the Nazis? This guy may be pushing the limit, but if I have to support his right to be left alone to make sure I have a right to be left alone, so be it. (No jokes about strange bedfellows, please! :neener: )
 
Jeffery S. Haynes

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Was I the only one who was curious as to what this dude looked like??
 
That would depend on the local statute as to what constitutes a "dog attack", bites etc, I doubt humping would.
I would suggest you not dress so provocatively on future visits....
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But there's some days I just need to feel pretty

And re: the dog. Yes, Joab. You could have it put down.
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You're going to have to show me a statute on that
His case was not helped when his desperate lawyer said to the female judge, "Oh, come on, judge, you can't tell me you'd complain if it was being done to you."
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I had never read that, are you serious. That's too funny.
I don't disbelieve it
many years ago I was in court on one of my many visit with my vindictive ex.
Somehow during the hearing the subject of my language around her came up.
I mumbled something under my breath thinking that the judge could not hear me.
Apparently she did and asked me
"Did you just say Aw S**t"
Thinking very quickly I defended myself with the first thing that came to mind
"No Ma am, I said this judge is full of bull s**t"
It didn't go well from there
 
Are you suggesting that this is part of a sheep's duty to society...? The sheep WAS injured in the incident.

Don't put him the sex-offender registry, put him on the Freakin' Weirdo Registry.
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no, I'm saying it is an animal that probably couldn't have cared less.

I agree, if you screw (or in the case of women get screwed by) an animal you are a few doughnuts short of a bakers dozen. But you aren't a sex offender, you are weird and into some seriously freaky stuff but not a sex offender.
 
RyanM said:
Most animals are capable of expressing rudimentary emotions quite clearly. Sheep can bite or kick. Dogs can bite. A horse could kick you into the next county. Are you constantly worrying about whether your dog is actually enjoying playing fetch, or getting patted on the head? The signs are pretty obvious. Sheep don't have the same body language as dogs, but that doesn't mean they're incapable of kicking you in the family jewels.
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I've owned and raised sheep for a number of years, and this is simply inaccurate. In the course of caring for sheep, the owner must perform a number of normal, non-sexual, activities that the sheep do not like. Sheep really don't like much human handling at all unless they are trained to be accustomed to it. (Neither do cattle). Sheep certainly do not like to be given shots, be sheared, or loaded onto a trailer. Yet in performing these activities over a number of years, I've never been bitten, and I've only been kicked once.

In addition, you are neglecting the fact that the case in question was a trespasser having sex with an animal owned by another person. Even if we accept the perverted view that there is nothing wrong with sex between a human and consenting livestock, shouldn't we acknowledge that the owner of the livestock would need to consent to the activity also? After all, it is widely accepted to be a crime if I break into someone's barn and take their horse out for a ride, or if I break into a barn and milk a farmer's cow without his consent? Certainly even if we are blind to the fact that having sex with a sheep is perverted, we should acknowledge that consent of the animal's owner should also be required.

Finally, there are techniques in sheep handling that render the animal completely docile and that are routinely used for administering necessary care to which the sheep object (hoof trimming, shearing, shots). The fact that the pervert was not kicked or bitten might simply mean that he has some experience handling sheep.

Michael Courtney
 
Michael Courtney said:
In addition, you are neglecting the fact that the case in question was a trespasser having sex with an animal owned by another person. Even if we accept the perverted view that there is nothing wrong with sex between a human and consenting livestock, shouldn't we acknowledge that the owner of the livestock would need to consent to the activity also? After all, it is widely accepted to be a crime if I break into someone's barn and take their horse out for a ride, or if I break into a barn and milk a farmer's cow without his consent? Certainly even if we are blind to the fact that having sex with a sheep is perverted, we should acknowledge that consent of the animal's owner should also be required.
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There's no question about that. But is taking someone's horse out for a ride something that gets you branded for life as unable to live within city limits anywhere (1 mile of schools/parks/day care is the entirity of NYC, for example, and neighborhoods are adding one of these to prevent sex offenders from moving in) even after the crook gets out?

Finally, there are techniques in sheep handling that render the animal completely docile and that are routinely used for administering necessary care to which the sheep object (hoof trimming, shearing, shots). The fact that the pervert was not kicked or bitten might simply mean that he has some experience handling sheep.
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... I would say so! :evil:
 
ROFL

Vern Humphrey said:
There was a case in Virginia about 10 years ago where someone was sexually assaulting horses. One of horses died.

I can imagine the scene in prison, meeting a new cell mate.

"Wadda ya in for, buddy?"

"Armed robbery. How's about yourself?"

"Oh, I screwed a horse to death."

"Say what!!":what:
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Ai'ght! That's it! That's the fourth keyboard in a year that I've shorted out by spewin' coffee all over it!

Vern...You simply will not do!

ROFLMMFAO!
 
This thread makes me think the site should be called the "Low Road".

This is my new argument against libertarianism.

Why don't you like libertarianism, Pafrmu?
Because they think it is ok to have sex with sheep.
 
Like the old joke goes: "A female monkey of course, nothing unnatural about old Smithers!"

Seriously, this thread has already provided more information about carnal relations with barnyard animals than most of us, even the more jaded and depraved, really wanted to know...
 
Pafrmu said:
This thread makes me think the site should be called the "Low Road".

This is my new argument against libertarianism.

Why don't you like libertarianism, Pafrmu?
Because they think it is ok to have sex with sheep.
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How does having sex with animals equal "Libertarianism"?
I wager $5 everyone that posted in favor of or has had sex with animals is a Republican. I would say Democrats, but they prefer children.:neener:
CT
 
I'm afraid that I'm somewhat guilty, in a sense. When I was single, I went to sleep with many women, but woke up with a number of...well, 'dogs'.
It got to the point where I thought about putting a fire hydrant in my living room and a box of Milk Bones on the nightstand, just for the next morning. I guess that I don't see too well at night.
:eek:
Biker
 
Biker said:
I'm afraid that I'm somewhat guilty, in a sense. When I was single, I went to sleep with many women, but woke up with a number of...well, 'dogs'.
It got to the point where I thought about putting a fire hydrant in my living room and a box of Milk Bones on the nightstand, just for the next morning. I guess that I don't see too well at night.
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Biker
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ROFLMAO....:D
 
In other countries they have other solutions. Attributed to the BBC and posted on another forum I moderate on:
Sorry the person who posted this on the other forum, didn't post a link to the story.
Man forced to 'marry' goat

A Sudanese man has been forced to take a goat as his "wife", after he was caught having sex with the animal.
The goat's owner, Mr Alifi, said he surprised the man with his goat and took him to a council of elders.

They ordered the man, Mr Tombe, to pay a dowry of 15,000 Sudanese dinars ($50) to Mr Alifi.

"We have given him the goat, and as far as we know they are still together," Mr Alifi said.

Mr Alifi, Hai Malakal in Upper Nile State, told the Juba Post newspaper that he heard a loud noise around midnight on 13 February and immediately rushed outside to find Mr Tombe with his goat.

"When I asked him: 'What are you doing there?', he fell off the back of the goat, so I captured and tied him up".

Mr Alifi then called elders to decide how to deal with the case.

"They said I should not take him to the police, but rather let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife," Mr Alifi told the newspaper.
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OK, I'm leaving the High Road here, but since I'm already in good company here goes:

There's a wonderful, funny French film called "The Advocate". It's taken largely from historical documents and tells the story of a 13th century Parisian lawyer who decided to give up the fast-paced life, stress, politics and stupid suits that came with practicing law in the big city. He moved to a village for the calm, simple life of a country lawyer.

Hah!

In the first scene a man and donkey are about to be hanged for the hideous and abominable crime against Nature. Just as sentence is about to be carried out the Advocate runs up to the gallows clutching papers. The official (local lord?) reads them and announces that the priest, judges and other respected men have written pleading for mercy. For the donkey. Because she "was previously of good character and would not have willingly participated in this act."

He announces "The she-donkey may go free with no stain on her character" while the condemned man is still standing there with the noose around his neck.

:neener:
 
Here's a better solution:

http://www.sudantribune.com/article.php3?id_article=14249

Feb 24, 2006 (MALAKAL) — A certain Mr Tombe was caught having an intimate relation with a goat belonging to a Mr Alifi at Hai Malakal — Upper Nile State, southern Sudan — on February 13. Tombe was ordered to pay the goat’s dowry and take the animal as his wife.

:what:

Read the rest. Just don't have anything in your mouth.
 
Oh man, that is cold. Colder than the inside of a banker's heart.

If they'd taken him to the police he would have just gone to jail, and they probably would have killed the goat. But this? He's going to have to change his name and move to some other part of the country far, far away. "Humiliation" doesn't even get close. If I were him I'd rather have been shot.
 
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