SF Bay Area CCW

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Guy B. Meredith, May 3, 2008.

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  1. thorn726

    thorn726 Member

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    wait, so am i reading this right, you got the CCW in CCC???

    wow!! RIGHT THE HECK ON MAN!!!!!

    (regardless of what abnormal stuff you have behind you to help with justification, and i hope whatever it was it didn't traumatize you, i'll hope it's more like you carry big $$$ but whatever..)

    if you're not a cop and you got a ccw around here, it's a victory
     
  2. TAB

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    unless you bought it, then its a crime.( not only litterly)
     
  3. PressCheck

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    It can't be bought in CCC. I know many people that donate a lot of money to the Sheriff's Charities that want one, but can't get one.
     
  4. mgregg85

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    Wow, $432 for just two years?
     
  5. QuarterBoreGunner

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    ^ Yup.
     
  6. akulahawk

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    QuarterBoreGunner, you live in San Francisco but you have a Santa Clara County CCW?

    How then, do you legally get around the following:

    My understanding is that your legal primary residence is what counts. I take it then that your legal primary residence is in Santa Clara County? The only folks that get around that are PC 830.6 Reserve Officers (who get a 4 year CCW) and you only have a 2 year, which clearly makes you not a Reserve Officer. Are you a retired LEO?

    If the above isn't correct, your legal residence is San Francisco and you've legally got a Santa Clara County CCW... I'd certainly like to know you you legally did it as I currently live in a county that is impossible to get a CCW in as well...

    Thanks!
     
  7. Birukun

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    You missed item (ii)

    "(D) For the purpose of subparagraph (A), the applicant shall satisfy any one of the following:

    (i) Is a resident of the county or a city within the county.

    (ii) Spends a substantial period of time in the applicant's principal place of employment or business in the county or a city within the county. "
     
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  8. akulahawk

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    No, I did not miss that portion of the code. If that part of the code was the reason for his CCW in a county outside where he resides, that should be a 90 day CCW that is only good in the county that issued it, not a 2 year CCW that is valid statewide.

    I excluded that because he specified that his CCW is valid for 2 years and is good statewide, not a 90 day CCW valid only in Santa Clara County.
     
  9. luckylogger6

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    This is not true. I didn’t need to qualify or do any shooting for my CCW. CCW is a county thing and not much is "State Mandated".
     
  10. akulahawk

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    The only thing "State Mandated" about the BSIS Course of Fire is that it is mandated only for people that have a BSIS issued Gun Permit. CCW courses of fire vary greatly. Approved CCW courses also vary greatly. They can be anything from PC 832 (if required by all applicants) to a 16 hour course. Renewals can be much, much shorter and a requalification shoot is not required, though many counties require a requal shoot.
     
  11. Guy B. Meredith

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    QuarterBoreGunner,

    What is required for the Santa Clara County CCW in terms of needs statement? Just curious--Xerox has me working that area as my primary territory.
     
  12. nicki

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    Contra Costa CCW

    Visit Jim March's site at www.equalccw.com

    Info is dated, but still relevant in California.
    Give you an idea what you are dealing with.

    Nicki
     
  13. QuarterBoreGunner

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    Guy; I'll tell you up front that my approval process is not the one that is generally recommended; I managed an indoor range/retail store in Santa Clara for most of the 90's. We were also the local dealer for LEO weapons; H&K, FN, Bushmaster all the big name high speed low drag select fire stuff.
    I first applied for my CCW via the SO's in 1997 I believe, and thought I had a pretty good chance of getting it.
    • I was managing a retail gun store with a large number of firearms on premise
    • My father is a retired, decorated Deputy with the same SO's I was applying to.
    • I already have a security clearance from a previous job.
    • Oh and I'm transporting machine guns in my own vehicle to the various LE Dept in the area for T&E, maintenance, etc.
    No dice, they turned me down flat with a "insufficient good cause". That pretty much told me that there literally was *no* good cause statement that they would accept.

    Then in July 1999 a dumba** punk kid that had decided that life was unfair attempted a take over robbery of the store; his plan was to steal guns and ammo from us, kill the three of us in the store, then drive to a local nightclub where he had been turned down for a job as a bouncer, kill everyone there he could before PD killed him or he killed himself. He detailed all of this in a suicide note/manifesto. Pretty messed up stuff.
    Anyway as you can imagine his plan was *not* thought out very well (ie: when attempting an armed robbery of a gun store, it may be wise to factor in the variable that the employee's of said gun store, may, in fact, be armed themselves.)
    After the ensuing loud noises and shouting he went to the nearest trauma center with his primary respiration system perforated, and I went home (eventually - man that was a long night) four rounds of .45 lighter. (two hits two misses on my part - meh, I call that a win.)
    After all was said and done, the SO's decided that, yeah, maybe me having a CCW was a good idea.

    Like I said, not the approved process.
     
  14. Yellowfin

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    So basically the logic is you need a fire extinguisher after your house has caught on fire already. Your wife has to be raped first before she can defend herself from being raped. To get a parachute you have to survive a plane crash. And to be able to wear a seatbelt for driving to and from work you have to be a NASCAR driver.
     
  15. QuarterBoreGunner

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    ^ Yup, that's pretty much it.
    It sucks but that's the way it is until we change it.
     
  16. Yellowfin

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    That's why Smith needs to be GONE. How in the hell someone hasn't made her public enemy #1 and run out of town I have no idea. The problem as I understand thus far is that for someone to kick her out they have to run for office against their own boss.
     
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