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"Shadow Armoury" Uncovered in GB

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Keith, Sep 18, 2003.

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  1. Keith

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    http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_820563.html?menu=news.latestheadlines

    Teacher admits gun misconduct

    A former acting deputy headteacher who was jailed after police discovered an illegal weapons cache at his home has admitted unacceptable professional misconduct.

    Thomas Hosty, 55, was given a 12-month sentence last year for possessing nine handguns, a CS gas canister, a stun gun and several rounds of ammunition at his home in Shaw, Greater Manchester.

    The General Teaching Council's professional conduct committee, sitting in Birmingham, heard on Thursday that Hosty, who taught at Harwood Park School, Heywood, Lancashire, was jailed at Derby Crown Court in June last year and released three-and-a-half months later.

    The father-of-three was arrested following a police raid at his home in November 2001, where officers discovered the arsenal.

    It included a loaded Smith and Wesson .38 revolver stashed under the floorboards in his toilet and a Colt. 45 secreted in a central-heating duct.

    Many of the guns had been modified and some had had their serial numbers erased.

    Hosty, a teacher with 31 years' experience, who appeared before the committee to give evidence, pleaded guilty to the criminal offences and agreed that his behaviour constituted unacceptable professional misconduct.

    Reading from a transcript of the Crown Court hearing, GTC presenting officer Bradley Albuery said that Hosty described himself as "an obsessive collector" who had, in the words of the sentencing judge, created a "shadow armoury".

    Hosty, who now works at a private adult college in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, said he had learnt his lesson and deeply regretted his actions.

    The teacher told the panel that he had been interested in firearms since he was a young boy and was a member of a local gun club.

    He had owned handguns before they were banned by legislation passed in the wake of the Dunblane massacre.

    Hosty, who often used to play Santa Claus at school celebrations, said: "I never brought firearms to school.

    "I felt the guns would be safe with me. I was wrong to let my keen interest in collecting firearms lead me to disobey the law."

    Neither his three adult sons nor his wife had known about the stash, he added.

    The committee adjourned to decide what sanction to impose.


    Story filed: 14:28 Thursday 18th September 2003
     
  2. Mark Tyson

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    "Several" rounds of ammunition? Jeez, some of the guys on this board have several thousand rounds of ammo.

    Edited to add: Oh it's in Britain! I was trying to figure out exactly what crime had been committed here! There are truly shades of 1984 here. The "criminal" repents in court, denigrating his wicked interest in firearms. How horrible. This man is clearly not a threat to the community. The language of the judge is disturbing as well.
     
  3. Henry Bowman

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    Title should read: Member of Underground Resitance Caught

    :what: OMG! You mean he could have actually FIRED one of those evil things!

    Wonder from where the SS got the tip on him?
     
  4. Mark Tyson

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    He probably opened his mouth and told someone, or showed one of his friends. Lesson here: keep your mouth shut about what you have that you shouldn't have. So many guys get caught because they love to talk talk talk!
     
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    The telescreen was behind the picture.
     
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    One nine eight four!
     
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    Thank goodness, another criminal off the street!:D
     
  8. Keith

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    He has already spent a year in prison and now this board is determining how they can further ruin his life. They can fine him, revoke his credentials so he can never teach again, etc. They've beaten him down and made an example of him. He's been through the "Re-education Camp" and is now thoroughly cowed into confessing his crimes against the proletariat and is begging forgiveness.

    This in a country where burglars are no longer sent to prison...

    Mao would be proud!

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    Did you notice that some of those guns were "modified"? I mean, the horrors! With the Novak sights on that 1911 he could have taken out most of Manchester with those several rounds of ammunition!

    Keith
     
  10. Wanderer

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    Dear Lord, he could've -God forbid- hurt a burglar with one of those things!!!:what: :eek: :uhoh:
     
  11. Justin

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    So what are the odds that they used a mask with rats in it to get him to admit the error of his ways?
     
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    I, too, was wondering what the "crime" was . . . until I saw it was in Britain.

    Still don't understand how guns at home constitutes "professional misconduct" on the part of a teacher.
    The lesson is, in Britain, either keep your mouth shut so the local Bund doesn't denounce you, or find a better hiding place!
     
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    Good example how to criminalize "subjects". The politicians need the real criminals, otherwise it wouldn't be so easy to suppress the serfs. This is why criminals in GB have such a fine life.

    Did you hear, that on several occasions our own "democratic politicians" threatened us to release criminals out of jail if we don't agree to higher taxes?

    Something goes in the same direction...

    :barf: :barf: :barf:
     
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    I find this very sad. If Sen. Feinstein and Schumer have their way, how many of us might end up saying something similar?:fire:

    Good grief, the country that conquered the world, reduced to this. Why?
    The legacy of WW I & II? This is lunacy.....
     
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    Now here's a jolly Britain who probably wishes his folks emmigrated to the "colonies" and fought the crown back in '75.
     
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    Where's Agricola? We gotta hear why this is justified.
     
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    That story makes me want to hurl. :barf:
     
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    Yeah, he's learned that he should have kept his mouth shut about that "arsenal" whilst down at the pub, and regretted that there wasn't more of an outrage when his socialist government pressed it's boot harder against the throat of it's subjects (as they were being disarmed). :fire: :cuss: Kind of chilling. geegee
     
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    Rarely does a day pass when I fail to feel grateful to our forefathers for having rebelled against the English and founded a republic.

    I think England would have been much happier as a Nazi subject state.
     
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    As most of the time, I'm with Standing Wolf. But, just look around, there are A LOT of people in our country with the same mindset that made the Hitlers, Stalins, Pol Pots and other scum possible.

    The urge of some characters, to rule over other people is insatiable. Nice word for them in German: Handlanger (accomplice) or, in English: Henchmen.
     
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    Dude, not that I disagree too terribly much with the sentiment, but you gotta work up some new catchphrases. ;)
     
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    I just wonder if the government in England is happy they ruined that man's life over such a thing as having guns to protect yourself. What about the wife and children. What a horrible experience. They must really be afraid of an uprising. When you think how much money it takes to support the Royal Family.

    It's almost as bad is us supporting our President, Vice President and all the Congress and Senators. Just think if they would all cut their pay in half we could pay off the national debt sooner. Oh, I almost forgot, how about the Govenors and their mansions.

    Well I can tell you we will be in the same boat, without a paddle if Hillary gets elected this next time. She seems to be the only democrat who can beat Bush. If she gets in we will have the same gun laws as the UK. Don't think that can't happen, with her connections. She is power hungry. She'll have Shummer for Vice President. Then we can kiss our guns good-by. Remember how the Clintons sued all the gun manufactuers?
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    I wonder if he was involved with this case at all...:scrutiny:

    Another Noble Savage bowed...:(

    Will he end up on the public dole? Will he go criminal to earn a living? Either way---it's OK in the Realm...:barf:
     
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    Woowee! If we're redefining the word, then I must be carrying an "arsenal" every time I go to the range.

    Yeah baby! I got your arsenal right here!

    Rarely does a day pass when I fail to feel grateful to my forefather for getting on that 707 and leaving Europe. :D
     
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    just seen this.

    Police do not raid houses on mere whims - the story suggests they would have to have obtained a search warrant from a magistrate, which would have required evidence.

    As it happens, Hosty was part of a group operating from a legitimate gun club who had been reactivating firearms post-ban, and all those involved in the group were raided simultaneously, which to me suggests that a "test purchase" had been made by undercover police.

    as for the justification, well it is our country after all, and noone can really claim ignorance of this particular law. I would also doubt the mans mitigation that he was seeking to defend his family based on the others convicted with him.

    oh, and keith please try to read the story before foaming into your usual "orwellian england" monologues - he spent three and a half months in prison, not a year, and burglars do get put in prison almost all the time. still, why let the truth interfere with your fantasies?

    http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/stories/Detail_LinkStory=68039.html
     
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