Shallow Gun Safe
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Possibly you should consider a keyed lock and a deadblot for the exsisting door. I doubt very much that you will find any safe for your long guns that would fit.
Trunk Monkey
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Flopsweat said:
I don't know if I agree w/ that if you're using a padlock Bolt cutters would take it right off maybe if you got one w/ a combination lock
If you do this, make sure the hinges do not have removable pins.
berettaprofessor
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Consider a wall safe? Not much better than a school locker, but they might be easier to hide. I've seen the V-Line model touted elsewhere.
http://wallsafestore.com/index.htm
http://www.amazon.com/Stack-On-IWC-55-Full-Length-In-Wall-Cabinet/dp/B002TOKR6W/ref=pd_sim_hi_1
http://wallsafestore.com/index.htm
http://www.amazon.com/Stack-On-IWC-55-Full-Length-In-Wall-Cabinet/dp/B002TOKR6W/ref=pd_sim_hi_1
Claude Clay
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berettaprofessor nailed it for you-- the v-line wall safe
JRH6856
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Or put deadbolts on the hinge side as well.
Strykervet
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Someone makes a gun locker that recesses in the wall between the studs. It is stackon style and you can put something in front of it and it is out of sight too.
Maybe $200?
A SCHOOL locker? You can get into those with a screwdriver or hammer. With a strong padlock, the handle fails, with a combo, you can bust it out. Those things don't keep out 16yo who have 5 minutes between class, what makes you think they are suitable for this?
You can get the stackon stuff, it isn't a safe, but it is better than nothing and stronger than that. It will only really work though if you have something that dispermits them from staying very long, like a suitable alarm system (which would cost a lot more than the safe unless you know what you are doing --but you can get a basic one to start with, just don't stop there).
Maybe $200?
A SCHOOL locker? You can get into those with a screwdriver or hammer. With a strong padlock, the handle fails, with a combo, you can bust it out. Those things don't keep out 16yo who have 5 minutes between class, what makes you think they are suitable for this?
You can get the stackon stuff, it isn't a safe, but it is better than nothing and stronger than that. It will only really work though if you have something that dispermits them from staying very long, like a suitable alarm system (which would cost a lot more than the safe unless you know what you are doing --but you can get a basic one to start with, just don't stop there).
Birch Knoll
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I'm going to try the Stack-On stud cavity cabinet as a low-profile, quick-access locker for a shotgun and/or AR-15. I'll replace the key lock with something like a Codelocks CL1200 electronic combination lock, so I don't need to hunt around for a key when and if I need to access the locker. Maybe hang a picture or a quilt over whole shebang.
dmazur
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This one is fairly high quality, but it isn't really a "safe".
It is a "between the studs" wall safe that is long enough for rifles.
There used to be something called a Phoenix Rifle Locker, and this looks similar to that product.
Closet vault
It is a "between the studs" wall safe that is long enough for rifles.
There used to be something called a Phoenix Rifle Locker, and this looks similar to that product.
Closet vault
Are you using the space under your bed for anything? Something like this might work better than trying to find something that would fit that shallow of a closet. Assuming you had room to slide out the drawers, it looks like you could fit two under a double bed if you needed more storage space than one provided.
http://www.factory-express.com/Honeywell_3090_Steel_UnderBed_Security_Safe-47296.htm?source=froogle
http://www.factory-express.com/Honeywell_3090_Steel_UnderBed_Security_Safe-47296.htm?source=froogle
JRH6856
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^^^^^
What stops someone from sliding it out from under the bed and carrying it off?
What stops someone from sliding it out from under the bed and carrying it off?
Birch Knoll
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Not much. Products of this type are meant as quick-access lockers which keep the gun reasonably secure from people who aren't prone to prying open metal boxes. They will keep the kids, houseguests, and the cleaning lady from getting their uninitiated mitts on a loaded weapon. They are not meant as serious anti-theft devices.
I figured that under bed safe could be bolted down--but maybe not. This one can but it's smaller and costs more. http://www.amsecusa.com/Defense_Vault/
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I'd like to suggest a different approach here that I got from a disaster survival book. How about an old file cabinet with a misleading label on the front? Like "National Geographic Issues 2001 - 2010" or "1995 tax records". Remove the drawer floors while leaving the outside faces intact so there is a single large space inside, just right for a couple long guns. Then just lock all the drawers. No burglar is going to waste time breaking into a boring-looking locked file cabinet when he's working on a tight schedule.
JRH6856
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^^^^
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+1
Trunk Monkey
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Flopsweat said:
There is that
Strykervet said:
And this makes them different from your average RSC in what way?
CollinLeon
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If you are only going to be storing a few handguns and some ammo, you might be interested in one of the floor safes. You chisel out enough of the slab to slide it down in there and then fill in around it with concrete. If you live somewhere that is subject to flooding, this might not be the best idea though. With a bit of patience, an air hammer chisel combined with a shop vac for removing the dust will work.
vvanders:
In keeping with your passion for the letter "v", how about V-Line? They make a closet safe that fits between the wall studs and sticks out only a little bit. Their site is vlineind.com. (Made in the USA, too!)
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Oops. berettaprofessor beat me to it (post #7). Sorry for the duplication of info.
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HTH,
Chris
In keeping with your passion for the letter "v", how about V-Line? They make a closet safe that fits between the wall studs and sticks out only a little bit. Their site is vlineind.com. (Made in the USA, too!)
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Oops. berettaprofessor beat me to it (post #7). Sorry for the duplication of info.
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HTH,
Chris
Mr.510
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What about just building a custom steel door into your existing closet? It wouldn't protect your stuff from fire damage but would be relatively secure. I say 'relatively' because someone that knew it wasn't a full safe could break through the back wall from another room. This risk could be minimized by covering the interior walls with plywood using lots of screws into the studs. This setup would not be ideal, but would be much more secure than a crappy sheet steel gun cabinet or 'storage locker'.
If your 10" deep closet has a stud wall, one option is to remove the sheetrock (or what-have-you) to expose the studs at the back of the closet. This gives you 3.5 inches of depth and may be enough to store your guns. Fir out for added depth if needed. Cover with a plywood panel painted to look like the back of the closet -- so you end up with a hidden recess for storage.
Steel doors, deadbolts, etc on the existing closet would just point the way to your valuables and a crowbar or sawzall would provide easy access unless the entire closet was robust.
Steel doors, deadbolts, etc on the existing closet would just point the way to your valuables and a crowbar or sawzall would provide easy access unless the entire closet was robust.
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