share your Safari/Alaskan style rifles

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  1. H&Hhunter

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    Stainless M-70 .375 H&H fluted, 20” barrel wearing a McMillian stock.
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    M-70 stainless .375 action rebarreled with a 21” .458 Lott barrel wearing a Houge stock in this picture but latter wound up in a McMillian. Topped with a set of AO ghost rings.
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    Searcy .470 NE box lock PH model double rifle.
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    Just as a side note the .375 H&H works just as good in Africa as it does in AK or the lower 48.
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    I also have a really nice .404 Jeff I’ll try to remember get pictures of when I get home.
     
  2. Micro

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    I've fired these guns, but basically they are part of my meager collection of rifles. Never hunted with any of them.

    Ruger Hawkeye "African" in 6.5x55 Swedish.
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    Ruger M77 MkII "Express" Rifle in .270 WCF.
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    Winchester Model 70 "Alaskan" in .300 Win Mag.
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    I'm assuming that if I ever decide to hunt with any of these, they'll work in places other than Africa or Alaska.
     

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  3. LoonWulf
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    I haven't had an issue with the sling stud on my .375 yet, but I'm could see how it could be a problem if the gun got away.
     
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  4. H&Hhunter

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    Sling studs on .375 H&H level rifles aren’t a problem for me. Moving up into the .40’s it starts to become a concern.
     
  5. troy fairweather

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    Very nice, when I build a stainless rifle some year id like to use the McMillan stock or anything that maybe better by then. A m70 ss action is high in the list next to a kimber i can't think of Many crf ss actions in my price range.

    the 375 is a good all arounder thats why I like them same for the 9.3x62. They put down bigger game but for smaller game don't damage much meat. Plus they shoot flatter the some think, I believe the 9.3x62 with the 250 AB has very close drop to a 308win out to 500 yards or so.
     
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  6. Lnf Crzr

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    Necg adjustable front and triple leaf rear.

    I just posted this on a different thread about Africa so I felt I didn’t want to type that again. Open images for details

    The 58 Double with some 600 Gr Conicles and max charge of Bp ain’t no joke.

    Both together is a good combo for Whatever.
     

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  7. 35 Whelen
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    Here's a beauty my Pop had built on a CZ550 action. It's a 9.3x62mm.

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    The 'smith put the wrong front sight on it, one of those orange glow jobs, but Dads left it as-is.

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  8. troy fairweather

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    Those look like the same sights I want to use, I'd get a silver bead myself.i'll have to look at the price but the one flip is all I'll need,but if it's only a few more bucks I'll get a 2 flip rear. Nice gun btw
     
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  10. troy fairweather

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    I was looking to get Dakota then they went to crap, seen so many things wrong. The all weather is nice I wish they would just sell the ss actions tho.
     
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  11. Lnf Crzr

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    Been many years since I’ve shot the 375Ai. Yet for as lite weight or Ultra lite as it is, It really dosnt kick the piss out of ya. Obviously ya don’t feel much when adrenaline is flowing … yet even at the range, the Brake really helps.
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    PO Ackley. He knows his stuff, Hunts Africa often.
     
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  12. 35 Whelen
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    Since you mentioned it, this is a 330 Dakota he had built on one of the Montana actions. Not necessarily safari or Alaskan style, but nevertheless....

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    He actually told me just a few weeks ago that he thought he'd sell this one. He's 87 now, so I doubt he'll be shooting these large calibers any more.

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  13. Lnf Crzr

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    I need to Get out on the range and open this bruiser up. From what I’ve read, it can do the job. That’s what they used for years. I almost got the .72 yet I like my shoulder where it is. 0DD40438-2F56-498F-A642-FF8F2EB7147A.jpeg
     

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    This one qualifies, though it's never been on safari. Ruger 77 Hawkeye African in .375 Ruger; McMillan stock.

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  15. troy fairweather

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    I've always wanted a Kodiak but we can't use double barrel muzzleloaders here, could use for normal season but hard to justify the cost.
     
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    E7CEC4EB-FE21-4865-8038-18E596DE5622.jpeg Took this one year to Africa, so I guess it’s a Africa rifle. Was my 16th Birthday gift from my father. I had it Teflon Coated, Jewel trigger, Bull barrel fluted and I Lugged that Ba&@$#% Up and down some mountains/hills for 2 months. When one of the Trackers asked me for it as I was crossing a Creek… I handed it to him and His Eyes got very big. It’s about 13lbs. Had to wedge it into a Ironwood tree on a Mountain/Hill side trying to get in position for a 490 yard shot. at the Position it really left a mark on the stock - gives Character.

    300 win mag with a 180 Swift Scirocco going about 3000fps.
     
  17. Bill Raby

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    https://www.mediafire.com/view/p2v3gejicd72u8r/IMG_20200507_213547516.jpg/file

    Here is a classic elephant gun. Its a 4 bore. It fires 4 ounces of lead with up to 550 grain powder charge. It puts out about 340 ft/lbs of recoil energy and 11,000 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. Photo was taken while the rifle was being built. I will have to get some photos of it now that it is finished. This is what they used for elephant hunting back in the 19th century. Its a lot of fun. And I get to say that 600 Nitro Express is a sissy gun for little girls!
     
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  18. troy fairweather

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    I've seen some of your videos I need to watch the later ones and see how it looks. I shot a 8 bore when I was 10-11 so I find the guns interesting. I always wondered how much the 4 bore penetrated on a elephant, I know it has crazy mass and energy but it's a big diameter. It's like it would knock out them.
     
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    My original plan was to make this CZ .416Rigby into a .500Jeffery that looks more like a Holland & Holland but interest in that project has waned.

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  20. .38 Special

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    I went through a Ruark phase about thirty years ago and put these two together.

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    Even then the original British rifles had gotten crazy expensive, so a pair of Rugers was all I could manage. The top one is a .416 Rigby, which I've left pretty much stock except for an action and trigger job. I have a Leupold 1.5x5 set in the Ruger rings, but really prefer the open sights. I did replace the tiny front bead with a big "ivory" from NECG. And yes, I'm pleased with the wear on the barrel from carrying it "African style" all over central California while pig hunting.

    The lower one is a short-lived "Express" rifle in .30-'06. I managed to pit the barrel with an early version of the Outers "Foul Out" electrochemical bore cleaner, but it is still reasonably accurate with either Hornady or Woodleigh 220 grain softs. The sights are the NECG peep with their Patridge front blade. They are perfection, except that the rear aperture was too small. I replaced it with a big brass "ghost ring" and for the life of me I can't remember who made it. It has a trigger job as well, done by a dear friend who has been dead for many years. He also made the "filler" for the standing rear sight, which had to be removed to clear the view through the aperture.

    With regard to the barrel band sling mounts, I haven't noticed any accuracy degradation in the 416 even with a tight sling. I will admit that I really don't like to shoot the big rifle from prone or sitting, though, so it almost never gets used with a tight sling. I prefer to shoot a .30-'06 with a tight sling, but this particular rifle goes absolutely nuts when I try it. But hey, at least those barrel bands look good...
     
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  21. Bill Raby

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    4 bore does not penetrate all that well for elephant. It is 1 inch diameter and tops out at about 1700 fps. Big and slow. While it would pretty much turn a Cape Buffalo inside out, penetration was not all that deep. But at the time it was in use, it was the best that you could get. The big Nitro Express cartridges were far less powerful, but they performed much better. The smaller, faster bullets penetrated much deeper on elephant. 600 Nitro Express was a lighter rifle with less than half the recoil and it worked better. Nitro Express killed off the 8, 6, and 4 bore rifles in a big hurry.

    I have about 100 shots through it so far. The recoil will throw you back about 5 or 6 feet. But it is not painful to shoot. I have never gotten a bruised shoulder from it. There is no recoil pad. It has a brass butt plate. Stock design and shooting technique makes that much of a difference. And this is with well over 10 times the recoil of a 300 Winchester Magnum.
     
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  22. eastbank

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    CZ-550 in .375 H&H, used on six hunting trips in africa on over 50 animals with out loosing any.
     

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    I am very surprised cz stoped making the 550 and I think the magnum is finished to. I here the cz are very popular in Africa but PH's and such.
     
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  24. Offfhand

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    The rifles built by Griffin & Howe back in the 1930's set a new standard of fine quality American made safari grade big game rifles and were fully equal to the best by English and European makers. The G&H lever quick-release scope mounting system also set a worldwide standard which remains. G&H rifles built on M-70 Winchesters like these two 1950's products remain the American standard of the best of the best. At top is .300 H&H, below is .375 H&H. Both with G&H lever release scope mounts. DSC_0239 (3).JPG DSC_0241 (3).JPG
     
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  25. troy fairweather

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    The g&h mounts are nice, my dad had a pre 64 with one. The mounts can sell for good money alone.

    I'd it possible to get a few pictures of the bottom metal on your 09 Argentine. I'm trying to decide how I'll shape the trigger bow and floor plate. To remove the numbers I think I'll have to punch the metal from the inside in order to file it flat, otherwise I'd have to cut the front off file then weld back of flush.
     
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