share your Safari/Alaskan style rifles

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  1. Offfhand

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    I have a few different rifles built around '09 actions, each with different bottom metal treatments. You may be referring to the .338 WM built by
    David Miller with drop box magazine and deep curved floorplate to accommodate an extra round. So here it is with a few other samples that may give you some ideas. I mainly prefer the "straddle butt" floorplate configuration on some of these. Reshaping the guard bow is an art.
     

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  2. troy fairweather

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    @Offfhand thank you very much, ya there's a bunch of ways to shape just the trigger bow and floorplate. Having limited tools doesn't make it any easier.
     
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  3. troy fairweather

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    I may have to get a set of the Allen head action bolts, save trying to time the flatheaded screws. Tho mine are pretty close but that may change with the new stock. I need to figure out what size for the pillers. Also need to ask Richards if they can only cut just enough for the trigger to pass through the stock, many pre fits they cut so much and there's no room for the cross bolts in the wood.
     
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  4. tark

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    Bill, I have fired a 4 bore, many years ago ( like 40 ) and I can certainly agree that it is an experience you don't forget ! It was owned by a gentleman named Ray Meyer Sadly, Ray has left us long ago but the rifle is in Alaska in the hands of Rob Semour. ( And I do hope I remembered and spelled his name correctly.). It was a Thomas Bland single barrel and it weighed about 17 pounds. The charge was 385 Gr. of FG pushing a 2000 Gr. Conical. I remember Ray saying that it wasn't as good as an 8 bore on Elephant for the same reasons you listed. Got to shoot an 8 bore double as well. It was a Purdy and Ray told me only a handful were ever made. These pics were taken in the 80s . The first one is Ray, holding the Bland. The second is the Bland, next to the Purdy 8 bore double. OOPS! Puter is drunk again! The last pic it the Bland in its casement. OK, 4 pics I forgot to delete the first sideways one.:confused:
     

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  5. Offfhand

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    My wife's favorite hunting rifle is this .275 Rigby built on a '09 Argentine action by Al Bieson, seen here with an African antelope. It is light and quick and suits her fast shooting style. She did NOT kill both of the lions and not with the Bieson rifle. She adds a lot of class to a safari camp and a great game spotter, but refuses to travel light, as obvious in other attached pic. af3 (2).JPG 21A_4298 (2).JPG 21A_4303 (2).JPG 2Lions.jpg Africa7.jpg
     
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  6. troy fairweather

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    About a perfect mauser I have my 7x57ai but one day id like to build one right. The 7x57/275rigby seem really good for the smaller planes game out there, tho I've seen they will shot big stuff like eland.
     
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  7. desmobob

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    I have a stock CZ550 in 9.3x62. All I did was free float and glass bed it and it shoots like a dream. I bought it in preparation for an Africa trip that never came to be... the 2008 economy kind of cancelled it. :(
     
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    Here's a bit of perspective. In the first pic I have a a 2000 Gr. 4 bore bullet next to a 500/465 soft nose. Pic #2 is the same bullet, and a 1750 Gr. 8 bore projectile, alongside a .577/450 Martini / Henry round. The midget is a .223. The case for the 4 bore was four inches long and held 385 Gr. of 1 F. The Kynoch ammo I got for $35 for the two. The .450 Nitro is non-corrosive, so I don't think it is all that old. It was full. The case looks grungy, it is not. Just the discoloration from annealing.
     

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    Bought this Ruger .458 off GB from a guy in Alaska. Shipped from an FFL there.
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    I almost bought one awhile back, could have gotten it for $700 it was one of the ts with Caucasian walnut but didn't need it. Buying it would have put me in a tight spot to, if it wasn't for that I would have gotten it to hold on to.
     
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    I'm not a safari hunter, forgive my ignorance but what is the concern people have mentioned throughout this thread on having a barrel band vs forend mounted sling mount?
     
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    The mount slamming your hand, big bore rifles can recoil fast especially in sub 9 pound guns. I've got whacked once from a 458winmag and I had a good hold of the gun. Often when using these big bores you are in a rush so you may not have the gun Anchored well or the harsh recoil makes the gun slip off your shoulder.

    you can probably do a search to see the aftermath, anywhere from mild pain to bloody or broken hand/fingers.
     
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    Another reason with the sling on the barrel when shouldered the barrel doesn't stick up as high and catch stuff. From what I've read most African or dangerous game hunters remove there slings when in heavy cover of brush, slings can get caught up. And one reason why there not much worried the barrel mounted sling affecting accuracy.
     
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    "Caucasian" walnut? White privilege or spell-correct error? :D
     
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    Haha it's worse I didn't even notice lol. It is light colored walnut lol.
     
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    Not what you are considering but this would be one of my choices if I were to hunt in Alaska. This one is chambered in 405 WCF. When introduced the 405 was considered to be too big for North America!

    That is a NECG banded front ramp with a brass inlet blade. The rear sight is some version of Lyman.

    Just giving you an option!

    Kevin
     
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    There a great rifle, I've wanted one in 35 Winchester for years. Was tempted by the latest ones they did but just didn't have the money when they were available. My dad had a few original 405s and I liked them to.
     
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  19. Speedo66

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    So that's what wood to metal fit is supposed to look like.

    Just beautiful! Same for the fine line checkering.
     
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    Yeah offfhands pictures have ruined most wood stock production guns for me......:D

    Im only kinda kidding too......
     
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  21. tark

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    My shoulder hurts just looking at that butt plate.:eek: Is that actually your gun? You got plenty of ammo for that thing? I do and I've never owned one Two boxes of Hornady 300 Gr. and a box of Old West Scrounger, also 300 Gr. The Hornady's are marked $39.95. They are still taped shut. I got them for ten bucks a box after I convinced the store owner he was NEVER gonna sell them. The OWS box was given to me. :what:

    You want some? I'll part with the Hornady's but I'll keep the OWS box, it's part of my display. I'll give you a price you won't believe, my usual Santa Clause Discount Rate. Shoot me a PM if you're interested.
     

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  22. StrawHat

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    Yes,
    Yep, that is mine. Doesn’t look like much but it is a custom built 405. Started as a 30 US with an absolute sewer pipe of a barrel. Was going to ship it off to be bored to 35 and chambered for the 35 WCF but the gunsmith I used at the time showed me a 40 caliber barrel he had on hand. He did the work for less than a reborn. I fitted the forend to the larger barrel.

    The rifle buttplate is not held to your shoulder joint but to your arm side of the joint. You still know you’ve pulled the trigger but not nearly as bad as it looks.

    Ammo? Always looking for more. Never know when the circus might come back and the animals get loose. Besides, once the “factory” wears off them, I load them with the Lyman 412263 and 5744 to replicate the 40-72 cartridge of the original Winchester Model 1895.

    Kevin
     
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    First Africa hunt was in 89 , I think, and I took the top pictured German made .300 Weatherby and a Push Feed late 70s .458 Winchester Model 70 Safari. I left the Winchester and my remaining .458 Ammo with the PH as a tip. Rhodesia and South Africa was really struggling with marxist rebels and the Euro nations esp. England had embargoed the commercial ammo . .458 Win Mag was one of the few heavy calibers still somewhat available then . I did buy a .470 Nitro "Army and Navy" cased London gun relatively cheaply after that trip and shot it a few times and sold it in the early new century for a big profit !
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    The next trip on Safari was in 2006 to South Africa and I took my Brown Precision stocked .375 Weatherby chambered 700 Remington Stainless which Chet Brown did some voodoo slicking up the action to feed upside down with a custom extraction system , and a slicked up and bedded and tuned Conn. made Winchester Model 70 Ultra Classic Stainless .270 WSM which I shot most of the smaller game with . I still have those rifles . they were used in Alaska hunts and Montana and Colorado hunts and still are my "go to" heavier game rifles they are pretty low maintainence and reliable
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    I got a couple real "Safari " guns a few years back, but never hunted them and will either pass them on or sell them if interest in the pre 64 Winchester ever returns. A 1956 .458 Safari Model 70 Super grade and a 1954 Super grade Model 70 .375 H&H that were taken to Africa by a Carmel Calif. wealthy "Sportsman"
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  24. troy fairweather

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    those are all nice rifles
     
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  25. Offfhand

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    A longtime classic American rifle for Alaskan big game and African dangerous game was Winchester's M-70 in .375 H&H Magnum caliber. This Pre-WWII .375 had been hunted with in Alaska and Canada and the lower 48 by the Doctor who delivered the baby who was eventually doomed to be my wife. He said she was the prettiest baby he ever delivered and gave her the rifle as a wedding gift when he learned she was marring me. DSC_0294 (3).JPG DSC_0301 (3).JPG
     
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