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Sheeple in CA forfeiting guns

Discussion in 'Legal' started by PinnedAndRecessed, Aug 15, 2004.

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  1. PinnedAndRecessed

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    Just went to gun show in CA this weekend. Tables and tables of beef jerky, t-shirts, statues, toys, etc.

    Maybe 30 tables actual guns. Precious few handguns. CA communists are successfully outlawing gun shows, guns and gun ownership and Californians are letting them.

    Case in point. The assault rifle ban. My gun owning friends weren't concerned because they didn't own any assault rifles. Then they discovered that the first draft contained their automatic and pump shotguns. Suddenly they're whining about violations of their 2nd amendment rights.

    Now, in CA, after this year, no one can purchase a rifle using the 50 caliber Browning Machine Gun round.

    The retards in Sacramento have decided, for us, that they don't want any low life gang bangers carrying around a 30 pound rifle with a 60 power scope that shoots a round that costs $4 per shot.

    Again, my gun owning friends aren't concerned because, you guessed it,
    they don't own a Barrett 50.

    There are enough gun owners in CA to elect our own politicians if they would just get off their fat, lazy, stupid, video game addicted butts and get busy.

    But as it is, they won't do anything and let the commie politicians continue to steal our guns. Many fine firearms are already gone, big time.

    And these pathetic CA gun shows are proof.
     
  2. Ellery Holt

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    That attitude (doesn't affect me so I don't care) is obviously universal, as much as I wish it were confined to California. There's a lot of valid criticism of that state, but hey, they've got Jim March and he is someone any state would want as an advocate.
     
  3. Sven

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    The Sheeple need to turn to the fence sitters and learn to convert if anything is going to happen. Simply going and voting doesn't work when you are the minority all the time.
     
  4. Declaration Day

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    If only I had a dime for every time someone told me "I don't care if (insert right here) is taken away because it's not something I do." or "I don't care if they impose or raise a tax on (insert product here) because it's not something I buy". Sadly, my brother is one of those people. It amazes me how many people aren't concerned about anything except what goes on in their private little world.
     
  5. grislyatoms

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    That has been the plan all along. I can't believe 2A supporters won't wake up.

    "We're going to have to take this one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily - given the political realities - going to be very modest. Right now, though, we'd be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal - total control of all guns- is going to take time ... The final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition - except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs and licensed gun collectors - totally illegal."
    -- Nelson T. Shields III, Founder of Handgun Control, Inc., New Yorker Magazine, p. 57-58, 26 Jul 1976


    I have not verified this quote.
     
  6. P95Carry

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    Same old - same old - nibble, nibble, nibble ........ chip, chip, chip.

    When nature does this we call it erosion ... when it happens to 2a ..... it's still erosion ... insidious and potentially irreversible.

    ticktick.gif ................................................... timebomb.gif
     
  7. R.H. Lee

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    No law has ever had (to my knowledge) a 100% rate of compliance. The less popular the law, the lower the rate of compliance. You cannot reliably judge what we may or may not be doing by looking at laws coming out of Sacramento. ;)
     
  8. 50 Shooter

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    If you don't vote like a gun owner, you SUCK!

    Pass this on to your buddies, http://dillonprecision.com/vote.cfm?dyn=1&cookieClean=1

    .50's aren't banned (yet) in Kali, keep fighting or else they will be. Just remember, Koretz doesn't have any problems walking around with a brown nose and knee pads on!
     
  9. Hawk

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    Say what?! Is this out of date already? NotDeadYet

    FWIW, this hyar Texican just mailed off his dues check to the FCSA and charged up 100.00 in raffle tickets to TFCI. I don't have or even want a .50 but there's not much stretch between a BFG50 and 7mmRUM to an anti.

    Camel, nose, tent.

    Shozbotz - the Barret is actually on Feinstein's web site as "protected" - right here

    Edited to add: Thanks 50 shooter - I shoulda hit "refresh" before posting.
     
  10. Jim March

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    The 50cal ban bill, AB50, has NOT passed yet.

    Other critical bills up in the air:

    SB1152: statewide ammo registration. Monster paperwork for all gun/ammo dealers, many of which (esp. big chains) will quit.

    SB1733: Cow Palace gun show ban - if this works this year, expect more next year.

    SB1140: more of a nuisance than a disaster now, as it's been watered down. Still, if you keep an unloaded gun too close to ammo and the gun isn't locked and a kid gets it, you're hosed (new "ammo proximity" thing). BUT it doesn't apply if even a light-duty "bedside grade" safe is used, or a cable lock or whatever (this was a late addition) so home defense-status guns aren't totally banned if there's kids around :rolleyes:. Plus yet more "child access penalties" tacked on. It's more "Jack Scott beating a dead horse because his teen kid got killed by a shotgun at a drunken party" stuff :rolleyes:.
     
  11. El Tejon

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    Everytime I update myself on what's going on with our brothers to the West, I silently shake my head. I remember my father telling me what a great place California was in the early '60s: gun stores everywhere, buy them via the mail, shoot whatever you wanted out on public land, no carry restrictions, no one cared, and now. . .:(

    Best of luck to our friends out there.
     
  12. RJ357

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    The same thing has happened with gun shows here in VA. It is common to find coins, minerals, jewelry, and even slot machines (for sale, not for use).
    One of the shows had been gradually increasing their frequency until they were up to 2 or 3 shows a month in just this area alone. With the same sellers there all the time, it was more like walking into a big store than a gun show. Turn out also feel off gradually over this period. Now they have cut back to about one show a month in this area.

    The Virginia Gun Collectors association show is much better, and they only do two a year.

    Ironically, the it-doesn't-affect-me attitude is exactly what will make it affect them - one day.
     
  13. Pilgrim

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    The average CA sheeple doesn't comprehend what Sacramento has done with regards to gun laws until massive civil unrest like the Rodney King riot comes along. A number of sheeple then were shocked to find out that a fifteen day waiting period was in effect.

    Pilgrim
     
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    Good bumper sticker
     
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    Enlighten them about Mr. Kennedy's armor piercing 30-30 rant during the last round of gun debates earlier this year.

    I'm sure there is a link for the text of his frothing.
     
  16. joe sixpack

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    Hey, Im just glad I don't live in California...

    cheers, ab
     
  17. R.H. Lee

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    I know. You've been annexed by Mexico. :p
     
  18. JerryM

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    Too many gun owners do not fight the fight, as they are lulled into the thought that it doesn't pertain to them and their guns. But it gets around to them in time.

    I remember many bumper stickers regarding "Cold dead fingers" but when it comes down to it, the VAST majority will give up their guns and gun rights.
    The Cali shooters are a case in point.

    Jerry
     
  19. Cool Hand Luke 22:36

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    The big show at the Dulles Expo Center a few weeks back had more guns than usual, but only by virtue of the fact that the show was three times as large as the usual one. 3/4ths of the tables were beenie babies, Klingon swords, jewlery, etc.

    They need to have a gun show sometime where everything is actually gun-related.

    Still, it was nice to see the end of the local permit & waiting period for Fairfax County as per the State's new pre-emption law. Looks like there needs to be a California Citizens Defense League like our VCDL.
     
  20. EOD Guy

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    That's one of the nice things about the Big Reno Show that's held 3 times a year.
     
  21. rick_reno

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    Don't lose sight of the simple fact that Kalifornians elected the people who pass this gun legislation. The majority is getting what they want. Also, don't forget that Kalif has no clause in their constitution regarding the right to keep and bear arms.
    When I moved to the Bay Area in the early sixties to attend college, I - coming from New York - had thought I landed in the land of the free. I could actually buy a handgun. Twenty-five years later it was time to leave, the freedoms I'd enjoyed when I arrived had been stripped away.
     
  22. PinnedAndRecessed

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    To Rick_Reno.

    Yea, the San Francisco Gun Exchange, the oldest gun store in the solar system, shut down because they got tired of the hassles.

    Now the commie demonRats are trying to shut down the Cow Palace for gun shows.

    On the left coast, I'm noticing that fewer and fewer young people are getting into guns. The gun grabbers may have a point, viz., in a generation or two, there's not going to be enough people to care to make a difference.
     
  23. BradN

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    I live in Central Contra Costa County. I went to the range Sunday with my nine year old son. It was crowded. There were quite a few other fathers with their sons and daughters there. One grandfather asked about the savage Cub my nine year old was shooting. He wanted to get one for his grandson. The shooting sports are alive and well in the SF Bay Area.
     
  24. Drjones

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    Man, you gave me and my wallet quite the heart attack!

    I'm glad you were incorrect......if the .50 ban passes, I'll have no choice but to run out and buy one. :D


    And I HAVE BEEN CALLING THE SENATORS TO TELL THEM TO VOTE "NO"!!!!!

    HAVE YOU?????????:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:
     
  25. alan

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    If memory serves, it was Thomas Jefferson who supposedly observed that "People generally get the kind of government they don't vote against".

    It's been a very long time since I lived in California, 30 plus years, so I'm quite possibly not up to date re things there (politics). Having said this, perhaps a majority of the electorate are simply anti-gun. Looking at the quality of the people they send to Sacramento, it looks that way.

    It becomes rather sad for those not so inclined, however nobody ever said that democracy, 1 man, 1 vote and things of that sort weren't messy. Seems that some significant number of individuals, have packed California in, though it also appears that people are still moving in. Different folks, I assume.
     
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