Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by onebear, Dec 14, 2007.
You're welcome to use a dealer, but you can ship it yourself. Make sure it's unloaded, box it securely, and mail it to your uncle's FFL (see below).
Your uncle will need to line up an FFL to receive the rifle for him. He should be able to find one here:
Your uncle will need to fill out a 4473 for the FFL.
Only legal if the box with the receiver in it goes to your Uncle's FFL.
Botton Line: IF it were me, I'd send it via USPS........to an FFL in your Uncle's state.......your Uncle picks it up from the FFL.......after he has been checked out by the FFL and paid applicable fees.
So, in-state (TX)
as a non-FFL I can ship a pistol DIRECTLY via UPS to another non-FFL? Did I read that right??? In other words, a private transaction???
Yes, you can ship it directly to another individual as long as you and that individual are residents of the same state and that private transfers are permitted by your state law.
However, Neither UPS or FEDEX will do this. They both require that either the sender or receiver be an FFL. This is company policy. You can't ship a handgun via USPS unless YOU are an FFL. DHL doesn't ship firearms at all.
If you can talk UPS or Fedex into shipping directly to a non-FFL, or if they don't ask, that's fine--it's completely legal as long as you have declared that the shipment contains a firearm. Both also require that handguns be sent overnight, so it is kind of expensive. Once again, this only applies to transactions between parties that are residents of the same state, and that are permitted by state law.
You are required by federal law to declare to the shipper a firearm shipment that is NOT being sent to an FFL. There's an ATF opinion letter regarding this floating around on the board somewhere, try the search function. Furthermore, the shipper will not pay an insurance claim on a shipment that was not properly declared in accordance with their policies. So, as you can see, failure to declare is a bad idea.
+1 UPS specifically states: "between persons not otherwise prohibited from shipping firearms by federal, state or local law and when such shipment complies with all applicable federal, state and local laws."
Fedex is the one that will not let an individual ship to another individual.
As the linked laws say: It is legal to send your firearm off for repair and have it returned directly to you.
Reading is fundamental.
That is only true if the shipment is going INTERSTATE - from state to state. In state shipments do not require notification whether or not to an FFL. Please don't post the ATF FAQ in reply, the ATF FAQ on their website is wrong, everybody knows it is wrong, it's 18 USC 922 that is the actual law.
Yes. Absolutely. I won't even chastise you for not searching
Here are the current links:
FedEx firearm shipping policies
UPS Firearm shipping policies
Of course, we all know, the policy, either to our benefit or to our demise is only as good as the person behind the counter understands it. I've shipped a handgun to a manufacturer by ground, because that is what the guy behind the counter asked me if I wanted to do, which is clearly against FEDEX policy, but saved me $50.
Shipping a gun via US mail...
This topic is pretty good. I'm learning much from the posts I didn't know.
Is it legal to send a firearm in "pieces" via the US mail?
For instance if I take the slide from an automatic and pack it in one package and the other pieces in a seperate package, both packages going to the same address? Is this legal?
NO. The package with the frame it will be illegal.
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