Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Shipping a handgun

Discussion in 'Legal' started by aHFo3, Feb 9, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. aHFo3

    aHFo3 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2008
    Messages:
    549
    Location:
    Redmond, OR
    I emailed ruger about an SP101 problem. It won't let me pull the hammer back in single action on one of the five cylinder positions. It seems the cylinder latch is hanging up on that cylinder notch - maybe. I don't know for sure.

    This was their response:

    Response:
    We recommend that you send your entire firearm into our Product Service Dept for evaluation. Ship to: S & R 411 Sunapee St. Newport, NH 03773. Put a letter inside with your firearm stating the problem. Include a daytime phone number, return UPS address, and mailing address.

    Pack in a plain brown box. Handguns can not be mailed. They have to be sent through a firearms dealer.If you need further information, please visit our website at www.ruger.com or contact us at:

    Revolvers, shotguns, rifles, 10/22 Charger Pistol: (603) 865-2442
    Pistols: (928) 778-6555
    Serial Number History Information: (603) 865-2424

    Please note: This e-mail is sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this message.

    Sincerely,
    Ruger Firearms


    I added the bold to the response, because that is the part I have a question regarding.

    Do I need to go through a dealer, or can I ship it to them directly for repair?

    I know when I've sent S&W's back, they go via FedEx, and not through a dealer.
     
  2. TexasRifleman

    TexasRifleman Moderator Emeritus

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2003
    Messages:
    18,302
    Location:
    Ft. Worth
    Well technically they are right, handguns cannot be "mailed".

    UPS and FedEx are not "mail", they are "common carrier". So, send it FedEx. I believe FedEx requires you to send it overnight.

    But yes you can ship a handgun off to an FFL without an intermediate dealer.

    From one of several ATF FAQ's out there:

     
  3. aHFo3

    aHFo3 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2008
    Messages:
    549
    Location:
    Redmond, OR
    That makes sense. Off to FedEx I go.
     
  4. NavyLCDR

    NavyLCDR member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2005
    Messages:
    7,691
    Location:
    Stanwood, WA
    You will get the gun returned to you, right to your doorstep, BTW.

    You might have been better off to let a dealer mail it, though. It would have been less expensive, priority mail vs. overnight Fedex.
     
  5. aHFo3

    aHFo3 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2008
    Messages:
    549
    Location:
    Redmond, OR
    I have access to good FedEx rates...$30 for overnight...vs. $25 to pay a dealer plus priority and hassle.
     
  6. swinokur

    swinokur Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2009
    Messages:
    905
    Location:
    Montgomery County, MD
    Make sure to declare it to the carrier. It's a Federal regulation and if you don't do it and it get's lost, you will be SOL when you try to file an insurance claim.
     
  7. nalioth

    nalioth Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2007
    Messages:
    5,841
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    I'm sorry, but you are incorrect.

    It is NOT legally required to declare a firearms shipment to a common carrier, if it's going to a licensee.

    As to the "insurance paying out", that's a civil matter.
     
  8. swinokur

    swinokur Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2009
    Messages:
    905
    Location:
    Montgomery County, MD
    I stand corrected.
     
  9. brickeyee

    brickeyee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2005
    Messages:
    3,135
    Both FedEx and UPS contracts of carriage require you to notify them.

    You know, all the fine print you never bothered reading but agreed to.
     
  10. nalioth

    nalioth Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2007
    Messages:
    5,841
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Last I looked, FedUPS policies were not laws.

    Again, those would fall under "civil litigation" if an argument needed presenting.
     
  11. dogtown tom

    dogtown tom Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2006
    Messages:
    4,301
    Location:
    Plano, Texas
    It will likely never make it to litigation..........when you choose to use a common carrier you are agreeing to abide by THEIR policies. Those policies can only be changed by the common carrier and not by you or the sixteen year old clerk at Bob's Pack-N-Ship.
     
  12. aHFo3

    aHFo3 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2008
    Messages:
    549
    Location:
    Redmond, OR
    I think I'll just declare it.
     
  13. brickeyee

    brickeyee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2005
    Messages:
    3,135
    You treat all contract you sign this way?

    Any insurance is void, and claims are void.

    YOU violated the terms of carriage (AFTER AGREEING TO THEM).
     
  14. NavyLCDR

    NavyLCDR member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2005
    Messages:
    7,691
    Location:
    Stanwood, WA
    Here we go.... AGAIN
     
  15. brickeyee

    brickeyee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2005
    Messages:
    3,135
    The whole 'not declaring' is just dumb.

    BY LAW they are NOT allowed to mark the package in any way to indicate it contains a firearm.

    I use 1.5 cubic foot 'book boxes' top ship handguns.

    It makes sure the otherwise small item is in a BIG package that is going to attract attention if an attempt is made to remove it from the shippers warehouse or if it is put aside for latter fooling with.

    It also hides the fact that a small heavy object is in the package.
     
  16. TexasRifleman

    TexasRifleman Moderator Emeritus

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2003
    Messages:
    18,302
    Location:
    Ft. Worth
    OK I believe the OP's question has been answered.

    All this nonsense about not declaring is just silly.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page