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Shocking: Charter Arms Pitbull, Accuracy / Grips

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Zerstoerer, Apr 6, 2015.

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  1. Zerstoerer

    Zerstoerer Member

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    Shot my new CA Pitbull in .40S&W last week:

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    First two shots bottom right, adjusted my trigger finger to forward index and check out the next series. All at 7 yards. Not bad for that short barrel.
     
  2. Duster340

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    No surprise here! I had similar results with my 2 1/2" Bulldog on it's 1st outing. They're great little shooters. And congrats on your new Pitbull.
     
  3. weblance

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    Whats the shocking part? That a snub can be accurate? I have found that the factor that influences the accuracy of a snub, or any handgun for that matter, is the trigger. Learn to master the trigger, and you will be shocked how accurate they are. I can "one ragged hole" a target with most of my snubs at 7 yards, if I do my part.

    Nice snub. Charter Arms is making some fine revolvers now days. I have a few, and I really think they are great revolvers.
     
  4. Zerstoerer

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    Now that I know it's a keeper, I would like to get some different grips for it.
    Something slim like on this S&W M37, who makes grips like that and is the frame size the same as on the CA Undercover?
    Thanks
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  5. Drail

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    Respectfully, 7 yards isn't going to tell you very much about the accuracy of a handgun. And if fired DA it tells you a lot more about the shooter than the gun.
     
  6. Zerstoerer

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    Interestingly the frame shows .357 on this .40S&W.
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  7. Zerstoerer

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    Before I shoot a new hangun at 25 yrds, I shoot it at 7 - and it tells me a whole lot about its accuracy potential.
    Good sights, good trigger, good results.
    Do the same with my rifles, 25 first then 100 and on to infinity...
     
  8. Zerstoerer

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    The short .40 will 'jump' about 1/4" from the cylinder before it engages the rifling, even more intrigued now...
     
  9. Zerstoerer

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    The original grip is very good, not to be misunderstood,
    I'd just like something smaller. Fully aware what that will do to recoil.
    Felt like less than a SP101 in 9mm...
     
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  10. weblance

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    Charter makes 2 different main frames, small, and large. They are like the S&W K and L frames. The large frame is just a bit taller than the small frame, but thats about it. My 6 shot 38 Special says 357 Mag on it, just like your 40

    Charter makes one grip frame. That means all grips interchange. Ebay has lots of the original, thin grips. You arent going to like shooting it with those, but they do carry well.

    I take the factory 3 finger grip, and using my big stationary belt sander, I sand away the 3rd finger. It makes a good grip. Charter also sells a good boot grip. Its a bit thicker at the bottom than the stock grip, but carries well.

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  11. Zerstoerer

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    Great advice and beautifully excecuted improvement.
    Congrats on your grip.
    I guess the Ruger grip would be the compromise.
     
  12. rhinoh

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    I own one of those .40 Pitbulls and also the .44 Special Bulldog- pleased with both.
    I did have an issue with the .40 cylinder boring I posted about here- was able to correct it myself though.
    My .40 is very accurate, don't recall if my .44 is too, as I haven't shot it in awhile. Shot my .40 just last week.
    One thing that does bug me is the grip rubber corners extending just above the frame- looks like someone put the wrong grips on them, I think I may attack them with my belt sander also;)
     
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  13. Panzerschwein

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    My .44 Bulldoggle is back at mothership for a timing issue. Frustrating, it was a NIB gun. Hopefully they fix it because I want to shoot it SO.

    FREAKING.

    BAD.
     
  14. Zendude

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    Will the undercover grips not fit the pit bull? You can buy the grips on the Charter Arms website.
     
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    Mine has the 357 markings also. They must all have them.
     
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    That 40 S&W is nice! I have the .44special and it is very accurate at 10yds. I have yet to shoot it at longer distances just to see how it does. I have been thinking of getting the 40 S&W, now I know it is a good shooter. Charter sometimes gets a bad wrap but I have been very happy with mine. I have the target I shot at somewhere, at 10yds all shots were touching. I believe I used some old Winchester silver tips if I remember correctly.
     
  17. Zerstoerer

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    Got a bid in on eBay for some Jay Scott vintage grips.
    Now, if these other guys would stop bidding higher than me...

    Will do some more testing, still can't belive it's that accurate!
     
  18. Zerstoerer

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    Got the new grips today, seemed too small but they fit:
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  19. Zerstoerer

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    Now a real pocket revolver, smaller but wider than a M37:
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  20. Zerstoerer

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    Almost perfect fit, we will see how it shoots now:

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  21. Zerstoerer

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  22. weblance

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    I think its gonna hurt...
     
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    ^^^ yepper.
     
  24. Zendude

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    My hand hurts just by looking at the thin grip and metal backstrap. It will be a pocket carry with a big punch on the receiving end though.
     
  25. Duster340

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    It'll shoot fine Zerstoerer. Though in my experience the tiny smooth grips tended to slip around in my hand under recoil requiring me to re-adjust my grip between shots. Changing to the checkered itty bitty grips helped a whole lot for me. And they really help CC over the full size grips, no printing even with a fairly tight tee shirt and IWB holster.

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    I found the original Bulldog grips below to be a nice compromise between control and concealment.

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    Enjoy your new Pitbull. :D
     
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