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Shooting 338 past 1000 yards (PICS)

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Zak Smith, Jan 23, 2006.

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  1. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Emeritus

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    Spent a great Colorado winter day shooting with R-, P-, and J-. It started out about 30F at 8AM and warmed up to 50F & sunny. Around noon, the winds picked up.

    J- was totally new to long range shooting, so after hitting the 10" @ 350 got boring, we had him hitting the 10" square @ 975 yards in no time with the AWP. That's less than a 1 MOA target size!

    We also set an IPSC steel quite a ways past 1000..

    Here's R- engaging the super-far target with his TRG42-
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    Our goal was to do some load testing on paper at around 500-600 yards, and then shoot steel at about 1000, and further. We set a 10" square steel plate hanging diagonally at 975 yards, and a steel "IPSC" target somewhere beyond 1000 yards.

    Can you figure out the distance by "milling" it? (We know the distance per GPS data and dope back-calculation.)
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    AWP, AWSM, TRG, TRG, LTR, HD. 4 USOs, 1 S&B, and 1 IOR. The two AR's on the ground in front both have TA11 ACOGs.

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  2. rero360

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    wow, I am completely amazed. and I wish I was in your shoes, those are some amazing rifles and I would be happy with any one of them. you are a lucky man how consistantly were you guys hitting the plate at 1000 yards?

    wow
     
  3. swingset

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    Just curious, did you finish your day by partying at Hefner's mansion with some centerfolds?

    I spent my day cleaning the basement. :mad:
     
  4. Zak Smith

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    Hi,

    With regard to hits @ approx 1000 yards-- with a good 308 load or 338, we can usually keep it on the 10" plate 75% of the time or better. On an IPSC target at the same distance, it is "boring."

    The reticle pictures show a target well beyond 1000 yards (mil it to figure out how far it it-- it's about 17.5" wide and 29" tall). Our hit percentage on that one with the 338's was about 25%, mainly due to strong and erratic wind. One miss would be right off the RH side, and the next would be 4 MOA left.. that kind of thing.

    -z
     
  5. Infidel

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    I get 1280 - 1340 yards, depending on how I squint. Is that close?

    That's some great shooting!
     
  6. Boe

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    simply spectacular. Great rifles. Its always a good idea to test rifles at different altitudes. I will send you my shipping address and I will make sure they are properly tested here in MN :)
     
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    I'm jealous! I also realize I am absolutely horrible at this mil ranging thing. I've tried it before theoretically and done OK, not as good as my brother, but now I'm just doing something wrong.
     
  8. Zak Smith

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    Still quite a bit off...
    :neener:

    This is a VERY difficult ranging exercise, especially from a picture.
     
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    You didn't say what reticle, but based on the picture, I'm assuming MOA Reticle, which leads to to approximately 1680 yards. :what:
     
  10. Zak Smith

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    Sorry, it's a S&B P4 with hash marks at 1/2 mil. The very fine tick marks on the far left, right, and top are 1/5th mil. The center "floating" crosshair has legs of approx 0.7 mil.
     
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    1473.2 meters. (1611.1 yards)
     
  12. Zak Smith

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    The actual distance is 1514 yards +/- 8.

    A ranging error of 20 yards will result in a miss, if a center hold is used.
     
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    Wish I had a range like that on which to shoot... :(

    Very impressive.
     
  14. Infidel

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    Well, it is for me, for sure. I seem to almost always underestimate using mil scales. Need practice.

    One of the perverse laws of Nature,-- at long ranges, where accurate distance is increasingly imperative because of the trajectory, it's increasingly hard to get an accurate distance measurement.

    Is that in the Pawnee Grasslands? Is that where you hold your long-range clinics?
     
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    ohhh, more pornographic pictures
     
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    We were shooting at the Pawnee in these pics, but that is NOT where we are going to hold the clinics. We are working on a special spot for those which has a 360* potential field of fire, and lots of neat terrain features.
     
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    any interesting anecdotes about the poodle shooters and long range?:cool:
     
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    I have made first-round hits on IPSC steel @ 550 yards using a TA11 ACOG (3.5x) and a 17-18" AR15...
     
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    Zak, did you special order that reticle? Looks exacltly like the one I want!

    BTW Nice rifles, nice shooting.

    warth0g
     
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    No, it's one of the "stock" reticles (P4) in the 5-25x56mm S&B PMII. I would prefer if it had a windage mark at 1/2 mil near the primary crosshairs.
     
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    Zak,
    Your 550 yard AR hits are with a 223? What load did you use?
    Thanks
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    What's these long-range clinics y'all are alluding to, and how can I sign up?
     
  23. Zak Smith

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    I have done so with 55gr XM193 and Black Hills 75gr. 55gr requires more windage.

    See http://coloradomultigun.com Dates are still TBD but we should know within a month.

    -z
     
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    Great pics and thanks for sharing. The farthest I've ever ranged anything in real life was about 600. I had no idea how much error was possible at that distance. I got around 1590 and then saw the answer, and tried to figure out what I did wrong, but there is a very small difference in mil measurement that gets your from 1590 to 1514.

    Did that LTR do anything at the longer distances?
     
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    I don't think anyone shot the LTR past 350 that day. Just didn't get around to trying it.
     
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