Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Shooting at Tacoma, WA Mall: Ongoing

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Unisaw, Nov 20, 2005.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Unisaw

    Unisaw Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2002
    Messages:
    780
    Location:
    Pacific NW
    Northwest Cable News is covering a shooting that has occurred at the Tacoma Mall. The situation is still ongoing, with reports of a shooter with a rifle firing 15-18 shots. Also, police are moving people back due to a suspicious package. What caught my attention was an eyewitness who reported seeing 3 different "undercover officers" inside the mall with weapons drawn as the shooting developed. I wonder if one or more of those "undercover officers" were really CCW holders.
     
  2. Unisaw

    Unisaw Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2002
    Messages:
    780
    Location:
    Pacific NW
    From Fox News:
    TACOMA, Wash. — At least five people were hurt after shots were fired inside a shopping mall Sunday, and the mall was locked down as authorities searched for the shooter, authorities said.

    It wasn't immediately clear how serious the injuries were.

    Tacoma Fire Department official John Landoski said authorities got a call about 12:15 p.m. that shots had been fired inside the mall. Five people were taken to hospitals with injuries, he said.

    The mall was locked down with shoppers and store clerks still inside, and the shooter was also still believed to be inside, Landoski said.
     
  3. Ukraine Train

    Ukraine Train Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2003
    Messages:
    1,233
    Location:
    Cleveland
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051120/ap_on_re_us/mall_shooting
    TACOMA, Wash. - At least six people were hurt after shots were fired inside a Tacoma shopping mall Sunday, and the mall was locked down as police searched for a shooter, authorities said.
    ADVERTISEMENT

    It wasn't immediately clear how serious the injuries were.

    A clerk said she heard three gunshots, and a shopper said he saw a man running through the mall with a gun and firing.

    "An individual had just come running through a cross section and I heard some fire so I just told everybody to drop," Dick Waldo told KING-TV. "And then the individual started running toward the other end of the mall."

    The mall was locked down, and the shooter was also still believed to be inside, Tacoma Fire Department Dept. Chief John Landosky told CNN.

    Six people were taken to hospitals with minor injuries, Landosky said. He couldn't confirm whether any of them were shot.

    Authorities got a call about 12:15 p.m. that shots had been fired inside the mall, and State Patrol and police units from nearby agencies were clustered around an entrance at the south end of Tacoma Mall.

    Betz Dejarnatt, who works at a J.C. Penney store inside, said she heard at three shots.

    "I thought, that sounds like a gun," Dejarnatt told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. She said some workers were herded into dressing rooms and offices, then police took them outside to a parking lot.
     
  4. Bobarino

    Bobarino member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,625
    Location:
    western Washington
    my girlfriend is a manager at Macy's at the Tacoma Mall. thankfully, she has today off. the phone's been ringing all day long with people asking if she's ok. i'm SO happy to say yes. makes me nervous as hell that she has to go to work there everyday. and of course, Macy's and the Mall, managed by Simon Properties has a no weapons policy.

    currently, the gunman is believed to be holed up in the Sam Goody music store. unconfirmed reports of hostages and a "suspicious package" inside the mall. swat team and snipers are ont eh scene and phone contact has been made with the gunman in the Sam Goody.

    will update when if i learn more.

    Bobby
     
  5. HighVelocity

    HighVelocity Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Messages:
    2,176
    Location:
    IDPA junkie in DFW, TX
    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/20/mall.shooting/
     
  6. Mannlicher

    Mannlicher Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    3,430
    Location:
    North Central Florida and Miami Florida
    Note the use of the term "herded" . Thats what we do with sheep.........
     
  7. Alex45ACP

    Alex45ACP Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2005
    Messages:
    1,464
    Location:
    USA
    If I got a dollar every time the lady on CNN said "the suspect is armed with an assault rifle", I'd be a very rich man. :rolleyes:
     
  8. Langenator

    Langenator Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2003
    Messages:
    2,689
    Location:
    Ft Belvoir, VA
    Gunman is now apparently holed up in the Sam Goody (record store) with an indeterminate number of hostages.

    According to a TPD spokesman, the media are actually obstructing things by calling the store, preventing the TPD negotiators from getting through.

    Idiots.
     
  9. Bobarino

    Bobarino member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,625
    Location:
    western Washington
    suspect in custody, three hostages released, no further injuries. weapon was an AK variant. :banghead: one hostage reported it as an "AK-5". :rolleyes:

    Bobby
     
  10. Tim Burke

    Tim Burke Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    1,130
    So not only are the police not obligated to protect you, they will lock you in the mall with the crazed shooter.
    Hmmm. If I'm going to be locked in a building with a crazed shooter, what would I want with me?
     
  11. bogie

    bogie Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2003
    Messages:
    9,569
    Location:
    St. Louis, in the Don't Show Me state
    Anyone have an idea of who the nutcase is?

    Guessing it may not be an islamic nutjob, cuz he gave up...

    If half a dozen islamic nutjobs took a shopping mall, things would be beaucoup ugly, what with the "lockdown" and all... You mean that's supposed to protect you, by not letting you out? Seemed like it was more supposed to keep the bad guy there until the police finished tagging...
     
  12. bogie

    bogie Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2003
    Messages:
    9,569
    Location:
    St. Louis, in the Don't Show Me state
    Let's see... Me with a CCW vs. spray & pray nutjob... Give me a 1911. Dead nutjob.
     
  13. Bobarino

    Bobarino member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,625
    Location:
    western Washington
    just saw an interview on NWCN. apparently there was a CCW'er on the scene at the time of the shooting. when he heard the shots, he had his wife, daughter and a store employee hit the floor, drew his weapon and backed his family out of the store with a bead on the shooter but didn't engage, apparently because of other people still around the shooter at the time. shooter was a young male. thats all they have at the moment.

    Bobby
     
  14. mindpilot

    mindpilot member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2005
    Messages:
    220
    Location:
    A Black Box
    Here goes the Press calling on interviews with any Liberal Legislator they can get to call on Gun bans again...I hope he is Islamic....otherwise makes us all look bad.

    ugh.....
     
  15. Old Dog

    Old Dog Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2004
    Messages:
    4,487
    Location:
    somewhere on Puget Sound
    Shooter was a young white male (looked as though late teens or early twenties), short hair, clean cut (almost looked military) wearing a white shirt and dark tie ...
     
  16. mindpilot

    mindpilot member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2005
    Messages:
    220
    Location:
    A Black Box
    sheeesh
     
  17. MillCreek

    MillCreek Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2004
    Messages:
    825
    Location:
    Snohomish County, Washington USA
    Ditto to Old Dog's description, from what I saw on a video feed of him being led to a patrol car. He is Caucasian, about twenty years old or so, wearing a long-sleeve dress shirt, slacks and a dark tie. He apparently started shooting at a cell phone kiosk in the mall, after being asked if he wanted a free cell phone. I wonder if he is a disgruntled Verizon customer, worked at the cell phone store or just picked that area at random. Witnesses on the scene describe the firearm as an AK-47.
     
  18. bogie

    bogie Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2003
    Messages:
    9,569
    Location:
    St. Louis, in the Don't Show Me state
    I'm almost scared ask, but how'd he conceal the AK?

    And this is the very first instance I've heard of a Mormon going berserk...
     
  19. George S.

    George S. Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2004
    Messages:
    1,117
    Location:
    Western WA
    According to a KOMO-TV report, the weapon is now being described as a Bofors AK-5 rifle. Apparently one of the hostages in the music store knew what kind of rifle it was.
     
  20. CentralTexas

    CentralTexas Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2004
    Messages:
    1,235
    Location:
    Austin Texas
    Hmmm

    Bofors are a rare beast, I find it hard to beleive someone would recognize one in this situation. I'd have said it was an AK variant with a Tapco stock before I'd realize it was a Bofors unless I was looking at it from two feet away.
    :scrutiny: :scrutiny: :scrutiny: :scrutiny:
    CT
     
  21. Hypnogator

    Hypnogator Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2002
    Messages:
    1,790
    Location:
    AZ, WA
    Try googling the "Mountain Meadows Massacre." :evil:

    Anyway, glad it ended quietly, and hope the wounded recover swiftly and fully.
     
  22. MillCreek

    MillCreek Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2004
    Messages:
    825
    Location:
    Snohomish County, Washington USA
    A witness stated that the rifle was concealed under a coat. The shooter took off the coat right before firing. The witness did not specify if the rifle was slung or being carried. And that would be something if it was an AK-5, which I have never seen in real life. If it turns out to be this, I wonder how a Swedish full auto longarm made it all the way to Tacoma. Is there even a civilian version of the AK-5?
     
  23. HonorsDaddy

    HonorsDaddy Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2005
    Messages:
    329
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    Ok - I am not a conspiracy theorist or anything, but:

    White guy, well dressed using not just a full-auto piece, but one which is rare in the US, and just somehow there was someone on-site to identify it and no one was killed?

    Is there a gun bill coming up for a vote soon? That reeks of setup.
     
  24. M-Rex

    M-Rex member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2005
    Messages:
    758
    Location:
    Kalifornya Soviet Socialist Republic
    You know? I hate to say it. I tend to be a firm skeptic of conspiracy theories, but that is exactly the first thing I thought of.
     
  25. HonorsDaddy

    HonorsDaddy Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2005
    Messages:
    329
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    Whew - glad to know i'm not the only one...
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page