Shooting "guilt" is finally getting to me...

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I shoot almost exclusively at our outdoor gun club, and when winter hits we're there less frequently so I'm shooting less because of the weather. I reload and am pretty well stocked, and am focusing on reloading for now. As far as helping others, I have a couple of friends who are relatively new to shooting, and it was their bad luck to get into it during a shortage. I was in their position when I got back into shooting during the early Obama years and that shortage. I always bring a little extra ammo for them.
 
I don't do guilt over things for which I have no guilt in the first place.

I most especially do NOT do guilt trips, wherein others attempt to manipulate me. Homey don't play that.

What have you done wrong that you have to feel guilty about? Broken any laws? Harmed any person? Deprived someone of material substance? Deliberately offended someone? (Rhetorical...no answer required.)

If you've done nothing wrong, then my advice is to drop the guilt. It's not doing you or anybody else any good.
 
I do not shoot for self defense purposes but it is a by product of shooting for fun so I consider myself pretty good. I reload for every caliber firearm I own and 90% of my shooting is rimfire which I buy by the cases every pay period even during these times as many people will not pay the high prize of premium rimfire ammo so it is always available. So no guilt here.
 
mavracer said:
I joked on Fakebook a while ago that shooting 9mm at the public range felt like eating prime rib at a soup kitchen
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lol, didn't realize I was eating so high on the hog the other day. :)

A lot of folks turned to 9MM during the last big shortage where no cheap .22 LR was to be found. I lucked up and had 4 or 5K of .22 LR going in (Had just restocked by chance), so I had to curtail my .22 LR shooting a bit, but I made it through.

I'll ease up on my shooting this time around to make it through as well. I did at least buy a few things (on sale even), during this last time of plenty, so I am in decent shape supplies wise.
 
Let’s all feel guilty, let’s all feel guilty about everything - surrender our wealth, our land, our firearms, our hobbies, our heritage, our history, our freedom, etc - this strange boundary “they” want you to cross is to use that privileged ammo on yourself - then they will celebrate your demise. Don’t get sucked in fellows.
 
If anyone is suffering pangs of guilt I will offer up consultation and help for your mental anguish in exchange for primers and loaded ammunition. I will include a thank you note too. I believe the thread is more about humor than being serious as to guilt.

I think I have maybe 1/2 box of 9mm which is 1/2 box more than I need since I don't own a 9mm. Bought and sold plenty of them when we had the shop just never actually owned one for myself. I think last shortage I gave away a set of 9mm dies I had. :)

Ron
 
Walkalong said:
Yep, and maybe help a friend or a friend of a friend, or a new shooter out if you have the means.
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I think this is a good idea as long as you have the supplies to do so. I told both of the younger members of my hunting party to tell me if ammo is keeping them from a hunt. Much rather hunt with them than have a bunch of extra shells around.
 
I still have "enough" and am not holding back.....yet. But I am starting to think that the time will come when I will have to conserve.

But being a pessimist, with lots of good cause these last weeks, I will have to think further in the spring. Don' t know if that is responsive.
 
I'm just bummed because I built up some good shooting mojo with my G9's at the range this past summer and it slowly starts to trickle off lil by lil the less you shoot. I have a G44 and a good horde of .22lr but it's just not the same. I do feel fortunate to have anything to shoot though, as I know many don't.
 
Walkalong said:
lol, didn't realize I was eating so high on the hog the other day.
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As a side note I'm doing the same thing with food, I'm not paying $50 a brick for bulk 22s when I can get match grade ammo for $60. Just like I'm not paying $5 for burger when KC strips are $6.
 
gifbohane said:
I still have "enough" and am not holding back.....yet. But I am starting to think that the time will come when I will have to conserve.
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I've heard this before, in regards to both shooting and other things, and I don't quite understand it. If you know there are bad times (shortages) ahead, why wouldn't you being conserving resources now? The earlier you reduce your consumption, the longer your resource will last.

Joseph didn't wait to build the grain silos until after the lean years began.
 
a few months ago, when all shelves were empty, except for .40 s/w(why? its not THAT unpopular, but between cheap trade ins and available ammo, those .40 people came out ahead) I was cleaning out stuff, and use to store reloaded ammo in whatever box was available... well not all boxes are suitable for something that dense. Years of a few rounds spilling occasionally, or just putting them somewhere and forgetting led to a decent number of rounds of unknown loading.

We took these, which turned out to be appx 500 rounds of .38spl, 357, around 300 rounds 9mm, a few hundred .223, 800 or so .22lr, 300 45 acp. All but the 22 were unknown reloads... mine, so I wasn't worried about safety, but I didn't know what they were, and wanted the brass back. Blowing through 1000 rounds in the middle of the shortage definitely got attention.
Blowing throu hundreds of rounds of 9mm at the range when most people are anxious about the remainder of that $30 box of pistol ammo makes me wish I could share.

I often tell people, YOU don't have to sue me for me to get sued. Your health insurance company may sue me for the cost of sewing your thumb back on. Sure that ammo is safe in a GP100, or a Springfield GI... but a Taurus with bad timing, or a RIA with a cast slide? An AR with an overly long firing pin, that can fire out of batter? Not worth it to me for the sake of being nice. Whoever has enough insurance to pay out, but not fight in court is who ends up paying.
 
D.B. Cooper said:
I've heard this before, in regards to both shooting and other things, and I don't quite understand it. If you know there are bad times (shortages) ahead, why wouldn't you being conserving resources now? The earlier you reduce your consumption, the longer your resource will last.

Joseph didn't wait to build the grain silos until after the lean years began.
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Well I figure it this way. As a result of buying a little more than I needed each time I bought something I like many have stored a pile of ammunition and loading components for lean times. The idea being so my shooting habits don't need to be adjusted. So when things like this happen I don't need to really shoot any less, not to say I'll shoot more but not less. I also figure that following years of putting away a little extra I can likely go for years and at my age no telling how many years I have to worry about it. I just do not want a disruption in my normal shooting patterns. Winters I tend to load more and shoot less, other than trips to a local indoor range. During the warmer and nicer months I like getting out to my outdoor range two maybe three times a week. Anywhere between 300 to 400 rounds mixed with both rifle and handgun.

Ron
 
D.B. Cooper said:
I've heard this before, in regards to both shooting and other things, and I don't quite understand it. If you know there are bad times (shortages) ahead, why wouldn't you being conserving resources now? The earlier you reduce your consumption, the longer your resource will last.
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DB - Good point however I am still not convinced that this absence of everything can last forever. IF the factories are still cranking out parts and ammo, supply has to equal demand sometime. No? Or am I missing something?

For the hell of it, I went onto Midway USA last night and they had ONE brand of 9mm available everything else was out of stock and unavailable. The one type was copper bullets 95 grain in a brand I never heard of. Did not even see russian steel.
 
gifbohane said:
DB - Good point however I am still not convinced that this absence of everything can last forever. IF the factories are still cranking out parts and ammo, supply has to equal demand sometime. No? Or am I missing something?
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Yeah, eventually everyone will have as much as they want. Like toilet paper, how much can you stash? Eventually everyone will have a few hundred rolls and stop buying it.

Ron
 
I still do not understand why the OP feels guilt about being able to shoot. Why would anyone feel guilty about being prepared?

Speedo66 said:
Everyone who shoots knows, or should know, that ammo shortages are cyclical.
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Under normal circumstances, I'd agree with this. 2020 has been anything but normal. The DNC platform outlines a plan to tax firearms and ammunition out of reach of most. Events of the past few days will surely lead to more talk of anti-gun legislation and taxation. Sure, there's light at the end of the tunnel-- it's an oncoming train.

Anyway, I feel zero guilt about being able to still go out and do my normal amount of shooting. The only thing that's kept me from doing more shooting is the crappy weather up here.
 
I think some of you misread what I was saying...I don't feel guilty that some do not have supplies and I do...I feel guilty shooting my own supplies when I'm uncertain about the next time I'll be able to restock.
 
gifbohane said:
DB - Good point however I am still not convinced that this absence of everything can last forever. IF the factories are still cranking out parts and ammo, supply has to equal demand sometime. No? Or am I missing something?

For the hell of it, I went onto Midway USA last night and they had ONE brand of 9mm available everything else was out of stock and unavailable. The one type was copper bullets 95 grain in a brand I never heard of. Did not even see russian steel.
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No I agree, although we have had some pretty long spells in the past. People who aren't really "gun people" and don't shoot regularly are having their feeds inundated with "ammunition shortage" articles coupled with the fact that stocking/prepping is sort of trendy right now might be a small contributor to the shortage. Kind of a fad that I'm sure alot of people will lose interest in and move onto the next thing. IMO.

Then again you never know, alot of it is dependant on the snowball effect. Some psycho does a thing, politician in that state says a thing, then a bunch of politicians and people start saying a bunch of things, etc.... bam, shortage.
 
Old Dog said:
Events of the past few days will surely lead to more talk of anti-gun legislation and taxation.
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I wasn't going to say anything, but I'm glad someone did. I'm certain that, as a result of Wednesday, we will see an even greater onslaught than we were already expecting. Only now it won't be "to protect the children," it will be "to protect the nation." I also expect to see some sort of Supreme Court case that will force an answer to the question of the original intent of the 2nd amendment (a last ditch stand against tyranny vs the National Guard etc.), and, after this week, we're in a much weakened position.
 
gifbohane said:
DB - Good point however I am still not convinced that this absence of everything can last forever. IF the factories are still cranking out parts and ammo, supply has to equal demand sometime. No? Or am I missing something?
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Well. You pay your money and you take your chance I guess.
 
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