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Shooting the Spirit Moose

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Black Butte, Oct 9, 2013.

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  1. Black Butte

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    There you go. Would I have taken the animal, I don't think so. But they were legal so if they wanted to I don't really have a problem with it.
     
  3. Sam1911

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    Seems they're being awfully nice about it to the folks who're upset.

    And also is another FINE example of why it really is a terrible idea to go publishing everything about your life for all the world to see. There's a little too much disclosure/bragging/advertising/openness/sharing in the world these days.

    Kind of like a toddler with a machete, folks really haven't figured out how to properly/safely use social media just yet. Gonna be the death of many. Heck, it already has been the death of some, no doubt.
     
  4. Sam Cade

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    The Moose needed to be killed, and the sooner the better. Albinism is NOT a survival trait.
     
  5. gspn

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    It was legal to kill...end of story. If you start 'not killing' animals because someone, somewhere will be upset then you won't be able to hunt anything...period.

    Sucks for that tribe but their way of life was on the downhill long before these guys shot a white moose.
     
  6. surjimmy

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    Legal kill, I'm all for it and they dang sure wouldn't be getting my hide.
     
  7. Outlaw Man

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    This. Or put in a zoo. Aside from a few critters north of the Arctic circle, being an albino will get you killed by a predator PDQ.

    I have to say, that would make a very unique mount.
     
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    I see no problem with taking the moose. I'm also pretty impressed with the hunters making nice about it with the tribe. They had zero legal obligation to do so, but it's a classy move.

    I hear everyone talk about how landowners don't let people use their land anymore because so many have had bad experiences with disrespectful hunters in the past. It would seem that a story coming out of a good-guy hunter isn't the worst thing that could happen.
     
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    If the tribe has a problem with it, they should lobby the Provincial government to make "spirit" animals off limits.

    I have a hunch that they wouldn't have raised a stink if one of the tribe members killed it.
     
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    In the article the hunters indicated that they would not have taken the moose if they had been aware of it's significance to the local natives.

    Also, it does not appear to me that the hunters are in any way behaving in an irresponsible, unethical or unsportsmanlike manner.

    Perhaps this would be the best approach, ask the government to change the hunting regulations regarding albino animals.
     
  11. Sam1911

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    Oh jeeeeez. I pulled up the weather channel site this morning and this "story" is one of their featured videos!

    As I said...
    We've seen it with pro sports guys and Donald Trump's kids and who knows who all else. Post a few "Me The Mighty Hunter" pics for all your fans and anyone else who just happens by and spend months dealing with the ignorant masses bombing your FB page, the media, your sponsors, etc. with hate and ridicule.

    Post a few shots or vids of your fun night out or afternoon of sillyness and discover that you've just published yourself violating the law, or embarrassing your family, or ticking of your employer and getting canned, or as in this case, greatly angering a native tribe you probably didn't know existed and finding yourself pressured into making sheepish public apologies and giving up your kill.

    A wise man once said, "never miss an opportunity to keep your (daggone) mouth shut."

    Posting information about yourself opens you up to all kinds of vulnerability, whether legal or not, as these guys and many others have found out.

    Stay off the flippin' radar!
     
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    Legal yes. A good idea? HELL NO!
    They have just given the PETA types a huge PR victory!
     
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    I respectfully disagree. The actions of the hunters after they found reflects favorably on all hunters.
    I probably would have shot the moose had I seen it, I would also share the spoils of the kill with the tribe that has laid claim to it.
     
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    They were right about the bad luck. Best not to spit in too many eyes even if your decisions are logical and legal.
     
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    The guys did NOTHING wrong. Everyone should get off their backs.
     
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    "The guys did NOTHING wrong" ... except let their faces and their harvest get plastered all over social media and get famous in a bad way. :)
     
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    That's their fault????

    If I kill a white bear, deer, moose, etc. and post the photo here, am I the bad guy?

    Easy answer = NO.
     
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    Nope. Not a bad guy. Just possibly opening yourself to more unpleasantness than you'd like.


    These guys aren't bad guys, and I don't know exactly how their story "got out." Maybe the hunting company posted it or maybe they had it up on FaceBook right away. Either way, they assuredly now wish they could put the djinni back in the bottle or the cat back in the bag, so to speak.

    I think they're poster boys for exercising the most discretion possible. A cautionary tale for all of us.
     
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    While I understand Sam's point, I figure that as long as what I am doing is to the best of my knowledge legal, ethical and moral, what I offer my detractors is the Royal Order of the Rigid Digit. Granted that I'm old, craniky, retired and independently not-broke.`
     
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    That would look great next to my fire place and given the chance would be there.
     
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    At least no one has shot the spirit squirrel yet. :neener:
     
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    Similar to an incident that happened here in Wisconsin last year. Some out of state hunters shot an albino deer that folks in the area had befriended and protected. Generally albino deer are protected in the state from hunters, but this was in a CWD area where the restriction had been lifted. Altho the shooting was legal, the landowner had warned them about the deer. The fallout was much the same.....on all the local news broadcasts and in all the papers in the state. While legal.....it still did not promote a positive image for hunters. Something we all need to think about.
     
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    Tell the Indians to shove it, I for one wouldn't pass up a legal shot on a rare animal like that just because of their superstitions.
     
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    What a rotten way to put it. Meat is easy to come by, favorable public opinion on hunters is not. We are stewards of the land, animals, and men who came before us. Not to mention our sons and daughters that we hope will follow us.
     
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    We had the same situation here in Norway a couple of years ago. The moose was of course named "Albin" by the city-dwellers... The hunters who had the terrain said that they would not shoot it. But a guest hunter from Sweden did. :D The papers were full of deaththreats from the vegans... Who were probably so anemic that they couldn't wrestle a carrot.
    Anyway, the whole deal died off on it's own.
    But as we have seen more than once, if you do something extraordinary while hunting: shut up.
     
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