So, I finally got some trigger time--i was invited to shoot with about 18 folks with instruction from a former SF, Delta Force guy. There's not a lot of guns I don't like (ar vs an and glock vs 1911 fueds are just dumb, I say, I love and own em all). But I have been more of a rifle guy. I'm a decent shot with a pistol, but never much practical training on employment. I watch videos and do some carbine stuff that included sidearm transition, but minimal learnings in the pistol space. Some observations: Someone's Korean glock mag came apart during firing. Floorplate shot out the bottom, spring flying, etc. I know there's a lot of snobbery around a lot of topics and I don't always buy into in (I like my Taurus better than Berreta-based on 10k rounds through 3 of them and not a so single failure. But hey, no hating, let's stay on target). I'm just saying I had an in person, I actually saw one fail spectacularly. For now, the ones I have will be range use only. I realized I'd not given enough thought to even how or different ways you can hold a handgun. Eye opening. Alignment of thumbs, where it goes, etc. Biggest eye opener was my lack of knowing squat about reloading. I've seen some of the magpul videos, but I know I need a lot of work/practice. (I felt like a doomsday prepped with 20 guns, an assault wheelbarrow,and 3 tons of protein bars that hasn't exercised except the mouse finger of the internet index finger). We talk about the "slide stop" vs "slide release". (Again, I'm an extreme pistol novice, but I'm a slide release guy). Btw, I took heat for bringing up fine vs motor skills for all you "assclowns" (his words,not mine. You expect flowery language and hugs? Delta folks...PC was not on his agenda). "How to you find the mag release then??" He taught weakhand as desired, fastest, followed by slingshot (esp if you use a variety of diff waepons so you don't have to learn diff MofA). He did say the Berretta runs a risk of decocking withe the slingshot method. I didn't understand that, but didn't followup. He's not a fan of DA. His perspective is with HKs, Glocks, etc, we have better options. I'm a 1911 guy only new to the glock world (love the grip frame, trigger, balance and safety of 1911s, but I'm loving the 17 and even the 20-but wish I'd have gone shortframe). I shot about 300 rounds through a well maintained glock 17 and had one stovepipe, was a bright spot how rapidly I cleared it, pat on my own back. A couple of the marines there shot extremely well, best shooter was probably one of those two. A seal was a good shooter too, most of the rest of the class was solid. A new Springfield 1911 (not sure of the specs, but a 45) lost its front sight. I was torn between a springer and a ruger 1911 over Christmas and the Range Officer model is still on my short list, so I took note of that. A springer in 9mm seemed to run great. Sarefty was super pro. And I avoided a nickname--again, think Delta and you can imagine how those weren't complimentary. And we all know, even a bad day shooting beats a great day at work. And this was a great day of shooting.