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SHOT 2012 in a nutshell

Discussion in 'SHOT Show Coverage' started by Ian, Jan 23, 2012.

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  1. Ian

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    "AR15!"

    I think about every third booth was someone with a newer better tactical-er AR15. And the few people who missed that boat were making new 1911s or AKs. :uhoh:

    Even CZ had an AR (called the Bren 805, with a piston upper and polymer lower, but still mechanically an AR).

    Still, it was a blast to go. There were enough things up my alley (read: not AR15s) to keep things interesting. There was a 1920s FN breechloading mortar on display, the new .22 StG44 from GSG, and others. I got to interview Charles St. George (designer of the Leader T2 and Bushmaster M17), and got to tour Long Mountain Outfitters' sweet machine gun collection. Good times!

    Plus there was a great antique gun show in Vegas on Saturday to attend.
     
  2. RyeDaddy

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    That's a good summary. You forgot "Zombies!" though.
     
  3. RX-178

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    Hey, I was there when you were interviewing Charles St. George! :D


    I think SHOT 2012 in a nutshell is really... .300 AAC Blackout. That took all 3 days and thinking back on everything one at a time to really appreciate how big an impact this caliber was making.

    Kel-Tec SU-16s are going to be released in the caliber. Ridiculous amounts of ARs in the caliber, Remington 700, even AR makers that never jumped on the 6.8 bandwagon are coming out with .300 AAC Blackout versions.
     
  4. fishblade2

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    yeah the new blackout cartridge is awesome but I am fearful of so many brands making the upper. It won't be long before it's like 1911's every gun company has 6 different models with thousands of upgrades and it becomes overwhelming... Also you have to look out for those that are not that great of quality uppers and finally the upper is going to be mass produces quickly which could lead to problems... I don't know maybe I'm just skeptical..
     
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    Other than novelty, I don't see the .300 AAC Blackout having much success. It is designed to work reliably in a suppressed AR platform, but other than that doesn't offer anything than more established calibers.

    The Class III/NFA group is relatively small, and they will buy quite a few, but other than that I don't see how sales will sustain themselves. What *is* the point of suppressing a medium bore cartridge? Other than some relatively limited military scenarios, I don't really see the point. I can understand suppressing a handgun (home defense), or especially a long range rifle(recoil and dust kickup), but I fail to see how a carbine/rifle suppressed helps the vast majority of Joes out there.
     
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    Hey, I agree with you completely reloader-1. It makes very little sense to me, but there you have it.

    Everyone's jumping on the .300 AAC Blackout bandwagon.
     
  7. Owen Sparks

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    The 6.8 will do anything the 300 Blackout will do and then some.
     
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    This is VERY good news! It means that the AR is becoming a common houshold item and that future legislation against modern high capacity military style semi-autos will be nearly impossible.
     
  9. Kruzr

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    I'd say there were 3 reoccurring themes:

    Tacticool stuff for AR's and every caliber AR you could dream up

    Mouse guns everywhere. Everyone is making a .380 semi.

    Zombie targets, grips, coating kits, ammo boxes, AR attachments, and assorted other nonsense.
     
  10. RX-178

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    Actually Kruzr, I think the .380 mousegun craze was the past few years.

    We're starting to see a 9mm Luger pocketgun craze starting this year, with nearly everyone who came out with a .380 pocket gun showing a 9mm version at the show.
     
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    So in ten years are we going to see nothing but the .40 cal AR and the .500 pocket gun?
     
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    I did say hi, Ian, in fact you gave me your card.

    I would have given one back but that was Day 3 and I'd run out of business cards at the middle of day 2.
     
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    And 12 gauge AUGs
     
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    Hey, we make a .40 AR (sort of like an AR)! Is there a problem with that??? ;)

    www.mycarbine.com
     
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    Posted this on another forum I frequent today cause of this dude that wants to convert literally everything to 300 blackout...AKs, ARs, FALs, handguns....everything

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  18. Visheau

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    would that be the H&O forum on the Vortex?
     
  19. mberoose

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    Maybe. lol
     
  20. Cesiumsponge

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    A ton of new AR offerings doesn't mean they're all equal in performance and quality. In the 1911 world most folks can rattle off the top brands. Same with the AR world. It might be overwhelming for a newcomer but that is what research and forums are for. If that is what the consumers are demanding, what is what manufacturers will supply.
     
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    Most exciting thing I saw was the new Hensoldt scope.
     
  22. Cesiumsponge

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    Zak, what is your impression of the trendy 1-8x like the S&B and CQBSS? You're big on glass so is like to hear what you think. I've heard some folks give the thumbs up but others say its like looking through a paper towel roll.
     
  23. Zak Smith

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    I wrote memo/essay describing an optic that would bridge the Type I, II, and III roles back in 2009 and sent it to contacts I had at several companies. Never really heard anything back, but now there are a bunch of approx 1-8x scopes on the market. Here it is:
     
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    I think you've hit the nail right on the head!
     
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    I Have got to attend the shot show next year
     
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