Saturday I shot in a metallic silhouette match in the big bore class. A lady competitor had a Marlin with a 24" octagonal barrel in 38-55. I watched her shoot and it surprised me how slow that round is. They were hand loads with a 225 grain bullet but I didn't ask her what powder or the load. She was shooting at the chicken silhouettes at 50 yards and when she fired there was a noticeable lag between bang and clang. When I shoot my 30-30 it is bang, clang. When she switched to the turkeys at 100 yards the time between bang and clang was very noticeable. She let me shoot it a couple times and I was surprised how mild the recoil was however it is a heavy rifle. Kinda put a bug in my mind that it would be real cool to have one. Got to mention that she is a tough competitor an excellent shot and a very nice lady who has won her share of trophies in silhouette.