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SHOT Day 2 - Smith & Wesson

Discussion in 'SHOT Show Coverage' started by TexasRifleman, Jan 19, 2011.

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  1. TexasRifleman

    TexasRifleman Moderator Emeritus

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    Not a lot new here. Handled the Governor. 2.5" bbl, Scandium. They are shipping with a 2 rd moon clip so you can vary the load; 2 rounds 45, 2 rounds .410, then whatever. OK, interesting I suppose.

    The S&W rep said "The Governor tells the Judge what to do" lol.

    Marketing at it's finest. But, here's the Gov:


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  2. TexasRifleman

    TexasRifleman Moderator Emeritus

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    M&P .22 Liked this very much.

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  3. TexasRifleman

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    I think the S&W rep has it backwards. The judge is way cooler IMO
     
  5. brandon_mcg

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    .22 looks snazzy....i just cant get into the judge or the governor.
     
  6. LemmyCaution

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    More info on the M&P22, please. MSRP? Action? Do they make it without the thumb safety for commonality with other firearms in the M&P line?

    It's a handsome pistol.
     
  7. Justin

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    The M&P .22 is very cool. As are the AR-style rifles that Smith is running. Overall their booth was epically cool.

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    In addition the new hardware on display, they also had a case full of prop guns that had been used in various Hollywood movies. Give you one guess what movie this one was in...

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  8. magnumman44

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    Of course, Dirty Harry...but what stands out in this picture to me is the picture of the Winchester Compound bow...are they making them now??? I sure didn't know anything about it!
     
  9. bratch

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    Is the M&P22 a 1:1 replica of the fullsize? How did weight compare? Any chance to dry fire if so how did the trigger compare?

    If you can't tell this is the item I'm most excited about this year.
     
  10. atlp99

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    I would like to know more about the M&P 22 also.

    Secondly does the tan M&P still use the melonite treated stainless slide under the tan and what coating are they using for the tan?
     
  11. Birdmang

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    Governer: six rounds three calibers

    .410, 45 colt and what else?
     
  12. W.E.G.

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    bleah... very disappointing

    I big fat clod-pistol, and a baby-poo M&P

    Whoever is making handgun decisions presently at Smith and Wesson needs to have his ears boxed.
     
  13. Justin

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    The M&P is a phenomenal handgun design, so I can't say that I'd blame S&W for going with what works.

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    Wait so no one is jumping on S&W for obviously copying the Judge, but Ruger gets dumped on for the LCP and LC9?
     
  15. W.E.G.

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    I'm happy for S&W that they have a plastic pistol that is competitive with the other plastic pistols.

    I own a few plastic pistols myself.
    Admirable for their functionality and economy,... but otherwise charmless.

    If I were equipping a police department, I would buy nothing but inexpensive, plastic pistols.
    If I had to carry it around on my hip all day, every day, the lightweight plastic is definitely the answer.

    I guess its just too expensive and impractical to build many guns like they used to.

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  16. TexasRifleman

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    And .45 ACP with the supplied 2 round moon clips. Crazy....
     
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    .450 Adams...or maybe .45 Auto-Rim?


    Bet it feels great to be an 'also ran' eating Taurus dust.


    Eeeeeesh...I feel embarassed for them at this point.
     
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    It is sad.

    If I had a nickle for every moron CEO in America today...

    ...In fact, the terms moron, and, CEO are pretty well interchangable anymore.


    This is the drooling diapered senile dimentia phase of what once was Genius, invention, innovation, otiginality, Industrial Know how, Manufacturing might, and real accomplishment and pride of accomplishment.

    All paunchy middle managers muching Tums now, parasiting on the sodden schemes, and, sitting on their fat moddled cabooses at particleboard desks, and...well, oye, yeeeeesh...glad I do not work there...

    Same with Colt, what's left of them...



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  19. Sam1911

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    Wouldn't it be great if S&W just stuck to what they did best way back in the 1980s? Why, if only they would keep making heavy all-metal 9mm autos with an olde-tyme DA/SA trigger system, why they could sell a handful of them to the old folks who pine for the good old days. Why, that aught to keep the company in business!

    It just sucks that S&W doesn't make museum replicas of what was relevant way back when, and are so stupid, old, impotent, and doddering, that they insist on making very capable modern service sidearms that compete successfully with the most relevant, modern designs available. Shame on them for making the kind of guns law enforcement agencies want to equip their officers with! Shame on them for making the kind of guns that competition shooters use to push the limits of speed and skill.

    Boy are they dumb. They're so stupid that they might just survive instead of fading into irrelevance (*cough*... COLT...*cough*).

    Design moves forward. Designs become MORE SIMILAR as we understand more about human mechanics and ergonomics. As we constantly test and retest and experiment with how humans shoot -- specifically, how to get the most effective hits in the least amount of time -- gun designs will continue to evolve toward a set of optimum characteristics.

    To say innovation has to be, above all else, radically different than what came before is wrong-headed. If what exists is close to perfect, than innovation should be in continued refinement of that concept. Not in revisiting the grande olde past, or diverging from what works bestest for the mostest, just for the sake of being different.
     
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    Expanding the M&P line is a great decision.
    I find the revolver silly and useless. But plenty of people out there are buying them so it is a good business decision to make one.

    I don't see the problem here.
     
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    Any word on a .22lr upper for the M&P9? (from S&W, Tacsol, or anyone?)

    That would be great news!
     
  22. gym

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    What's the msrp on the Gov? Taurus may still have the edge if the gun is a thousand dollar revolver like most of their revolver line, but I do like the 45ACP, only because it runs the same ammo as my auto.
     
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    So you'd buy a gun with 3" long chambers to fire .45ACP out of?

    Like, on purpose?
     
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    S & W, yawn, yawn, yawn :banghead:

    How much you bet the M&P .22 has a slide made of zinc?
     
  25. Old Fuff

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    The polymer pistols are unquestionably practical and increasingly popular. Beyond that there isn't much more to say. Maybe there is no reason to say more.

    The featured revolver may offer an additional market for X-frames, and maybe sell like hotcakes. But it doesn't ring my bell. I suppose I belong to the wrong generation. As I see it innovation moves very slowly and is mostly centered on cutting manufacturing costs.

    I shouldn't nit-pick Smith & Wesson, as they're competitors are in the same boat. :(
     
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