Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by deadeye dick, Jul 2, 2020.
I buy and use them for snakes. They work really well.
I have already killed several nuisance rattlesnakes this spring with the 45 Colt capsules fired in single actions.
The smaller the shot size, the better. I typically use #9 with great results.
Except the OP said 75 feet, not 7-1/2 feet so no, those won't work for distance. For 25 yards, if you do not want to use your .22, use a 410
Way back in my youth, we used to pick off squirrels and groundhogs using pellet rifles, the pump type. I used to have a Crossman pump rifle, and I'd take a 22 pellet, put a .177 bb inside the cone and shoot it. On impact it acted like an expanding round, the BB inside the back cone would flare out the soft pellet lead. Pretty deadly for small critters.
They wouldn’t be any safer in a Disney movie.
5 yards is more like it for most rat/snake shot loads range, 25 yards your going to have very, very few pellets on an 18x18 target much less with the energy to kill a rodent.
I get tired of the birds too... j/k
Shooting shot out of rifled barrels just doesn't work well. As for any kind of range...dismal would be the word to use for performance.
Shoot bullets out of rifled barrels. Shoot shot out of smooth bore.
Definitely shoot some if you're curious, because shooting is fun.
I believe bore size is critical. Bigger bores allow more shot, bigger shot, and encourage better patterns. As has been pointed out, rifled barrels are terrible choices for shot loads, so again, expectations should be moderated.
I have used a lot of Speer shot capsules, and they work well. Years ago, though, I moved on to gas checks. I seat one, cup up, over the powder charge, then fill with shot, and then load another check cup-down to seal the works. This can require opening the case mouth more than is normally prudent, and perhaps more crimp as well, but I consider these to be "special" products and don't mind donating a few cases to the effort.
Over the past year or so I have been experimenting with brass shotshells (in 12 gauge) with blackpowder and traditional methods. I have applied some of those techniques to handgun shotshells. My latest bit of foolishness is to load between a quarter to a half case full of Trail Boss, then seat a cork wad (these normally need to be punched by hand, although some of the appropriate sizes are available from muzzle loading supply houses like Track of the Wolf), then fill with shot, and finally seal with a card wad or two - again either hand punched or luckily found on line. The card wads can be crimped into place and/or sealed with Duco cement, which is flammable and leaves no trace in the gun. Early results are better than anything I've yet tried, but I don't yet have enough experience with them to give firm reccomendations.
TL;DR: Use the biggest bore you've got. Speer capsules are fine. Gas checks are cheaper and better. And traditional blackpowder shotgun techniques may be the best-performing option. And get close!
Air rifle is a good idea for more challenge. A.177 Springer with 10.5 grs copper coated flat head pellets will take squirrels out to 35 yards but you need head or lung shots. Makes it more challenging.
I would switch over to a pellet rifle or pistol to make it a little more challenging if that's what your after. Like said the mini- shot shells are for short range only.
But if you want a little more challenge then your 22 rifle, try a 22 handgun.
Years ago when my eyesight was better, I hunted squirrels with a Ruger MKIII with a 10” barrel.
Why don’t you just use a 22 pistol?
Absolutly, That's why I asked about the shotshells. I patterned the rat shot and it was like throwing salt. I would'nt even think of using it on any rodent.
Great idea! That gives me a reason to buy a 410 when I ask the boss.
I have a Uberti Stallion, .22 .22 Mag but at 82 I'm lucky to see the critter. The 4 power Bushnell it perfect for my 65 year old Springfield Savage model 850
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